Angelofthemarches
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@AM1874 if you havent done it please do not put out your view of the truth without really understanding just because you want to push low carb.
@DaveSyl I completed a low calorie diet which I did forlonger than 8 weeks some years back and now eat completely normally. This includes sweets, biscuits and cakes when I want to and my blood sugar level stays within normal at all times. My HbA1c since has been consistently 33 so it has worked for me. The only other thing I will add is what have you got to lose in trying it? If it doesnt work then you are no worse off and if it does (even if it lasts for a few years only) then thumbs up.
Hi DebsHi, I'm just wondering if this is still the case. Researching VLCD for a presentation I'm giving. Thanks
Thank you so much. Giving a talk in November (see my latest post for full details) and I'm going to say lchf not the only way. VLCD and bariatric surgery also. But I'm not sure how sustainable VLCD is for obvious reasons. I do know about the 2 year results. How is VLCD sustainable. And what if you are a thin diabetic! Not an option. Thanks again.Hi Debs
What do you need to know..?
Here's the 2 year results
https://www.directclinicaltrial.org.uk/Pubfiles/Final accepted draft, prior to editing and corrections.pdf
And what if you are a thin diabetic! Not an option.
Can you explain what you mean by this, please? The Very Low Calorie phase is not meant to be permanent.How is VLCD sustainable
Can you explain what you mean by this, please? The Very Low Calorie phase is not meant to be permanent.
I did the "Newcastle" or rather my own version of it using real food between about August 2017 and end Dec of that year/very early Jan of 2018. I lost about15lb in that time and then my BG went down to normal I then tried to keep up the weight loss and unintentionally not only kept it up but lost a further approx 8 lb over the next 9/10 months or so to approx end 2018. Stayed level until about May 2019 then between then and now put back approx 5lb, I suspect by eating a lot of chocolate ice cream with double cream! I eat what I consider normal amounts of carbs. That is any I like really, without going to extremes which might put the weight back on. Eg I normally have 2 pieces toast or more often crumpets for breakfast, plenty of potatoes or rice with my lunch and tinned soup plus often another piece of toast for supper. I just had my HBA!C results back today and it is 39. This causes me to believe that once I had lost the original excess fat on my pancreas with the Newcastle I was able to tolerate normal amounts of carbs as I had done years ago.Thank you so much. Giving a talk in November (see my latest post for full details) and I'm going to say lchf not the only way. VLCD and bariatric surgery also. But I'm not sure how sustainable VLCD is for obvious reasons. I do know about the 2 year results. How is VLCD sustainable. And what if you are a thin diabetic! Not an option. Thanks again.
I did the "Newcastle" or rather my own version of it using real food between about August 2017 and end Dec of that year/very early Jan of 2018. I lost about15lb in that time and then my BG went down to normal I then tried to keep up the weight loss and unintentionally not only kept it up but lost a further approx 8 lb over the next 9/10 months or so to approx end 2018. Stayed level until about May 2019 then between then and now put back approx 5lb, I suspect by eating a lot of chocolate ice cream with double cream! I eat what I consider normal amounts of carbs. That is any I like really, without going to extremes which might put the weight back on. Eg I normally have 2 pieces toast or more often crumpets for breakfast, plenty of potatoes or rice with my lunch and tinned soup plus often another piece of toast for supper. I just had my HBA!C results back today and it is 39. This causes me to believe that once I had lost the original excess fat on my pancreas with the Newcastle I was able to tolerate normal amounts of carbs as I had done years ago.
Sorry, bit of a late reply but Richard Doughty's initial height and weight gave him a BMI of 23 which is in the upper half of the normal range - this does not equate with 'thin'. Prof Taylor has hypothesized that everyone has a 'personal fat threshold' above which they become diabetic. Most people would not reach this threshold until they are overweight or obese. For some people, however, their personal fat threshold lies in the upper range of normal BMI so they may be able to put their diabetes into remission by sufficient weight-loss to reduce their BMI to low normal.Or perhaps it is. 4th paragraph down, links to Richard Doughty’s story:
https://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal/#publicinformation
Brilliant results. Well done. Do you test your blood sugars ever? If so are they normal? Or do you spike after carbs?I did the "Newcastle" or rather my own version of it using real food between about August 2017 and end Dec of that year/very early Jan of 2018. I lost about15lb in that time and then my BG went down to normal I then tried to keep up the weight loss and unintentionally not only kept it up but lost a further approx 8 lb over the next 9/10 months or so to approx end 2018. Stayed level until about May 2019 then between then and now put back approx 5lb, I suspect by eating a lot of chocolate ice cream with double cream! I eat what I consider normal amounts of carbs. That is any I like really, without going to extremes which might put the weight back on. Eg I normally have 2 pieces toast or more often crumpets for breakfast, plenty of potatoes or rice with my lunch and tinned soup plus often another piece of toast for supper. I just had my HBA!C results back today and it is 39. This causes me to believe that once I had lost the original excess fat on my pancreas with the Newcastle I was able to tolerate normal amounts of carbs as I had done years ago.
My hba1c was 39 last week. I do very occasionally nowadays test my Bg in the mornings having fasted all night, and Bg is always normal. I have never tried it after carbs so I don't know if I spike.Brilliant results. Well done. Do you test your blood sugars ever? If so are they normal? Or do you spike after carbs?