The 58k extra deaths are not just Covid deaths, that is the figure for all deaths (against the previous 5 year avg), so no, that is not misleading it is simple maths.
I agree that stats can easily be spun but if you look at the figures on the ONS for weekly deaths you can see that actually for the last several weeks deaths have been around a 1000 a week extra compared to the last 5 year avg. Whether they are in fact due the SARS-COV2 virus or anything else, I think we could agree that is quite a lot higher than the 5 yr avg.
It's confusing because an ONS report today says there were 8 (8 not 800) more deaths in October 2020 over October 2019.
There may well have been extra deaths early in the year because the vulnerable, the aged and poorly, succumbed during the (expected) initial surge of the virus. (Front-loaded the statisticians call this apparently). Nobody is doubting there was (is still to a degree) a very nasty virus. And big mistakes were made early on with treatments and particularly the care homes. Yes, sadly some people died before their time.
Of those 43,265 deaths in October, 7.8% involved covid. Involved. Not died of. That's 3,367. Of those (if the percentage can be extrapolated from BBs post above) 96% had a pre-existing dondition and 93% were over 60.
That means the vast majority of people currently locked down are in negligible danger. From Covid anyway. In my opinion their future is being slowly throttled. That is dead wrong.
(I'm still theorizing here) In addition, you mention 1000 extra weekly deaths over the 5 year average. IF that's right, how many of those are because diagnoses, treatments, operations etc. were cancelled / postponed? In a way covid is responsible. A great many people suffer one way or the other from its effects, without being ill.
Finally, what we're doing here is debating. That's healthy. I'm no expert and I'm certainly no less worried for my kids and grandkids future than anybody else. Nobody (yet) has shut down our debate (hopefully they won't, I don't think either of us is exactly 'militant'!) so I hope the vax / no vax debate is allowed the same freedom as we are here.