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What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

gennepher said:
Fbg 6.4

The nighttime trail cam.
Sorry about the noise a part way through. I had turned down the interference nose for each clip section, and then listened to it before uploading, but that section had come up to 300% again. I normally have the noise/sound at 20% so you can still hear the natural sounds.

The noise is from 1:00 to 1:33, then it goes quiet again...

It took half hour to get this to load. I am not doing it again!!!

I am working from an iPad and that doesn't let me into the video to edit it. You need a laptop to edit a video that has already been posted.

The fox was searching a lot for food this night...

Cat & Fox


I have been training Midnight!
With the same commands as I gave my dog.
'Leave it' (that is my meal even if I leave the room for the bathroom)
'Sit' (he will sit in exactly the spot I tell him to)
'Stay' (he is very good at that, and waits until I get back in the room)
But what I cannot get him to do is 'Come here'. He just stares at me.
The difficulty is, Midnight does not respond to food treats.
What he does respond to is 'Good boy' and a few nice adjectives that go with it. And he is beaming with pride it seems when I say 'Good boy'. His eyes well up and his face is so happy, and he purrs and purrs.

I will get there with that.

Toys are not a thing with him. I have tried. But a little fur fabric rat/mouse, he absolutely loves, and hugs it, and cleans it to death. There is absolutely no way I can take it off him if he is hugging it. I would be minus a hand if I tried.

Catnip? No interest in it.

Creative is an autumn digital painting in Procreate.
A bit brighter one than yesterday!

Have a good day.

Time for a cuppa.

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Lovely painting @gennepher
 
gennepher said:
I have bought a heavy dog harness and lead for Midnight. He is too big for even my previous dog's harness @Annb
He hasn't seen them yet, so ...
But I need some way of transporting him. He needs a dog cage, not a cat basket, and I could never lift a dog cage any more.

I was having trouble uploading too. The site kept refusing to upload...
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The only time we had a problem with the bigger cat (Jimmy) was when we tried to travel with him using a cat basket. We took him with us from Dumbarton to Canterbury and he protested loudly for quite a long time, before ripping the basket apart and climbing out. He then settled quite happily on the rear windscreen shelf of the VW we had then. On the way home, we bought a new, stronger crate and gave him a sedative suggested by a Canterbury vet. It just made matters worse; the sedative was not strong enough and he howled and howled. Then proceeded to demolish the new crate. He travelled the rest of the way on the back shelf. That's when we decided to train him to walk on a lead.
 
Annb said:
The only time we had a problem with the bigger cat (Jimmy) was when we tried to travel with him using a cat basket. We took him with us from Dumbarton to Canterbury and he protested loudly for quite a long time, before ripping the basket apart and climbing out. He then settled quite happily on the rear windscreen shelf of the VW we had then. On the way home, we bought a new, stronger crate and gave him a sedative suggested by a Canterbury vet. It just made matters worse; the sedative was not strong enough and he howled and howled. Then proceeded to demolish the new crate. He travelled the rest of the way on the back shelf. That's when we decided to train him to walk on a lead.
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I think the same would be for Midnight!
Which is why I am going down the harness route @Annb
 
jjraak said:
As I understand it.
Type 1 produces little or no insulin, hence the need to inject.
Type 2 produces too much insulin
But as we become immune (resistant to it) it takes more and more to push the glucose we ingest in and around our bodies.

The goal, as I understand it is to find a measure of what we CAN eat..(monitoring & eating to the meter)
Thus reducing the need for so much insulin & theoretically reducing our insulin resistance.


Presumably our bodies will change over time and that includes what we can actually eat without spiking, so it's good to keep an eye on things we think safe, at certain points in time, just to be sure.

I wonder if for you @Granny_grump_ oats have now crept into your spiking foods list, if you didn't spike before.

And for you @Annb (& me )
Porridge / oats is already a spike specific food, so a good one for us to avoid.

Lots of references on line.
But I found Dr Fung book on T2D to be very informative about the mechanism of just what carbs do to us & the roll insulin plays in that.
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Hi@jjraak it’s not just porridge it’s everything I eat containing carbs for instance we have been out after breakfast until 2.pm I had.A soft Bread roll with bacon on it two hours later my BG reads 15.5 I don’t seem to be able to eat anything lately that contains the smallest os carbs. Doctor has put me on Gliclizide 1x 40mg per day only been on it about 2 weeks maximum if that. It’s obviously not working I have a diabetic review on 17th November I will bring this up with her and see what she says, up to recently I’ve been diet controlled only not had any problems I think my pancreas has given up completely. I’ve been type2 now for around 22years so it’s possible do you think.K
 
Granny_grump_ said:
Hi@jjraak it’s not just porridge it’s everything I eat containing carbs for instance we have been out after breakfast until 2.pm I had.A soft Bread roll with bacon on it two hours later my BG reads 15.5 I don’t seem to be able to eat anything lately that contains the smallest os carbs. Doctor has put me on Gliclizide 1x 40mg per day only been on it about 2 weeks maximum if that. It’s obviously not working I have a diabetic review on 17th November I will bring this up with her and see what she says, up to recently I’ve been diet controlled only not had any problems I think my pancreas has given up completely. I’ve been type2 now for around 22years so it’s possible do you think.K
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@jjraak I didn’t have porridge this morning I had Greek yogurt and berries K
and lunch was 2 pm this afternoon’s only had a coffee while we were out from 10 am till lunch at 2pm
 
Granny_grump_ said:
Hi@jjraak it’s not just porridge it’s everything I eat containing carbs for instance we have been out after breakfast until 2.pm I had.A soft Bread roll with bacon on it two hours later my BG reads 15.5 I don’t seem to be able to eat anything lately that contains the smallest os carbs. Doctor has put me on Gliclizide 1x 40mg per day only been on it about 2 weeks maximum if that. It’s obviously not working I have a diabetic review on 17th November I will bring this up with her and see what she says, up to recently I’ve been diet controlled only not had any problems I think my pancreas has given up completely. I’ve been type2 now for around 22years so it’s possible do you think.K
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As you might have noticed from past posts, I can't eat anything without insulin and even then, carbs are likely to cause a spike. My one slice of bread this morning did just that (15.5 two hours later). On other days, it wouldn't be that much of a problem, so it seems I fluctuate from day to day. You may be doing the same thing. Perhaps you could find a way of getting to zero carbs for a day or so and see if that helps. Zero carbs is not easy - in fact, I don't think it's possible so what I mean is zero overt carbs (wheat, oats, rice, potato, corn, rye, root veg and so on). There will still be some carbs even in green, non root, vegetables and in protein products. Dairy products as well. This way you could see if your T2 can be managed by diet or whether you need extra medication.

Of course, you may find zero carbs too challenging, in which case you could talk to your doctor about increasing the medication you are on. For me, there's no real alternative. I was put onto insulin, supposedly temporarily, and never could come off it again. Even large doses of it doesn't really control my BG. It has, however, dropped from the 15.5 earlier to 7.7 which, for me, is very good. Only because I just put up with being hungry and refused to eat anything else until this evening.

Your doctor could do a blood test to see if you are producing any insulin. If not, then you aren't T2, you are T3/LADA or something different. Can't for the moment remember what the blood test is called, but I'm sure someone on this forum could tell you.
 
Annb said:
As you might have noticed from past posts, I can't eat anything without insulin and even then, carbs are likely to cause a spike. My one slice of bread this morning did just that (15.5 two hours later). On other days, it wouldn't be that much of a problem, so it seems I fluctuate from day to day. You may be doing the same thing. Perhaps you could find a way of getting to zero carbs for a day or so and see if that helps. Zero carbs is not easy - in fact, I don't think it's possible so what I mean is zero overt carbs (wheat, oats, rice, potato, corn, rye, root veg and so on). There will still be some carbs even in green, non root, vegetables and in protein products. Dairy products as well. This way you could see if you T2 can be managed by diet or whether you need extra medication.

Of course, you may find zero carbs too challenging, in which case you could talk to your doctor about increasing the medication you are on. For me, there's no real alternative. I was put onto insulin, supposedly temporarily, and never could come off it again. Even large doses of it doesn't really control my BG. It has, however, dropped from the 15.5 earlier to 7.7 which, for me, is very good. Only because I just put up with being hungry and refused to eat anything else until this evening.

Your doctor could do a blood test to see if you are producing any insulin. If not, then you aren't T2, you are T3/LADA or something different. Can't for the moment remember what the blood test is called, but I'm sure someone on this forum could tell you.
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@Annb i’ve recently had a fasting bloods test done I go for my diabetic review next week on 17 November but apart from Lipids my print out of that blood test was all ok no action except for lipids when they commented that I make appointment with nurse so I did. K
 
Granny_grump_ said:
@Annb i’ve recently had a fasting bloods test done I go for my diabetic review next week on 17 November but apart from Lipids my print out of that blood test was all ok no action except for lipids when they commented that I make appointment with nurse so I did. K
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The test I'm thinking of isn't part of the normal tests done. It looks specifically for signs that you are producing insulin, or not. You would probably have to ask for it specifically. I did, and the doctor I saw didn't even know that such a test existed. He did order it for me though. That's how I found that I do produce plenty of insulin, just not enough to make my daft system take any notice. Wish I could remember what it is called. HELP somebody out there, more knowledgeable than me!
 
Annb said:
The test I'm thinking of isn't part of the normal tests done. It looks specifically for signs that you are producing insulin, or not. You would probably have to ask for it specifically. I did, and the doctor I saw didn't even know that such a test existed. He did order it for me though. That's how I found that I do produce plenty of insulin, just not enough to make my daft system take any notice. Wish I could remember what it is called. HELP somebody out there, more knowledgeable than me!
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I think the test you are thinking of is the C-Peptide test (https://www.ucsfhealth.org/medical-tests/insulin-c-peptide-test) but I stand to be corrected before going on I'm a celebrity, making an apology of sorts and trousering the dosh. I'm a resident of West Suffolk - don't know if that is relevant.
 
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ianpspurs said:
I think the test you are thinking of is the C-Peptide test (https://www.ucsfhealth.org/medical-tests/insulin-c-peptide-test) but I stand to be corrected before going on I'm a celebrity, making a faux apology and trousering the dosh. We do that in West Suffolk.
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That's the one Ian. Many thanks.

@Granny_grump, that's the test I meant. Worth having a look at the site Ian has indicated above. You might have to make special arrangements and you might have to point your doctor to that website, if he/she doesn't know what it is, like the one who saw me.
 
Granny_grump_ said:
@Annb i’ve recently had a fasting bloods test done I go for my diabetic review next week on 17 November but apart from Lipids my print out of that blood test was all ok no action except for lipids when they commented that I make appointment with nurse so I did. K
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Your liver enzymes could still be out the doctors are not testing as they did formally.
High GGT is a sign of metabolic syndrome.
D
 
lindisfel said:
Your liver enzymes could still be out the doctors are not testing as they did formally.
High GGT is a sign of metabolic syndrome.
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@lindisfel Upto Covid I was tested regularly but not had blood test since Covid and I ended up requesting it myself but surprisingly things seem ok no action required on my doctors print out of my last fasting blood test, but a request to make appointment with nurse concerning my Lipids level Serum cholesterol 5.7 serum triglyceride 0.8 serum HDL cholesterol 1.88 LDL cholesterol 3.5 serum cholesterol HDL ratio 3 non HDL cholesterol 3.8 normal thyroid function. K. Will ask about C- peptide test next week when I go for review.
 
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Granny_grump_ said:
@lindisfel Upto Covid I was tested regularly but not had blood test since Covid and I ended up requesting it myself but surprisingly things seem ok no action required on my doctors print out of my last fasting blood test, but a request to make appointment with nurse concerning my Lipids level Serum cholesterol 5.7 serum triglyceride 0.8 serum HDL cholesterol 1.88 LDL cholesterol 3.5 serum cholesterol HDL ratio 3 non HDL cholesterol 3.8 normal thyroid function. K. Will ask about C- peptide test next week when I go for review.
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I think C peptide has to be sanctioned by a consultant but you can try.
 
dunelm said:
Good morning everyone on a bit of a late start here in the dark and dangerous north. 5.3 on the Janus screen of depression or joy. It’s Armistice day today, an important day in our calendar, for Mrs Miggins and me at least. People will be going about there business but do take some time, a minute, maybe two, perhaps at 1100hrs to reflect that despite all our aches, pains, complaints and moans, that we are still here, Veterans of our own lives and families.
Art bit - colour added so on with something else. Have the very best day that you can. Can I have more koffy? Yes I can.
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Lovely painting @dunelm.
 
Fbg 6.7

From the nighttime wildlife trail cam...
This badger who I call KissyKissy because it is always is trying to make nose to nose contact with cat, Midnight.
And Midnight is making his feelings crystal clear.

Cat & Badger (cat hisses at badger)


Creative today is a digital painting in Procreate of autum.

Yesterday, I was in the Polish shop with my phone, translating some different foods I was interested in. I am looking for some different foods with my diabetes in mind. And for the problem I have a severe reaction to rapeseed oil. Came home with a bit of stuff. Start trying them out today...

Time for a cuppa c(_) or two c(_)

Have your best possible day...

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ianpspurs said:
Good morning everyone from a dull start here to a day of dual Remembrance for St Martin and all those who served and paid the ultimate price or lived with the impact. @dunelm respect to you and Mrs Miggins and all your comrades. Like many others I shall remember family members who served in both world wars, Korea and on our nuclear subs. A son works for the RBL The colour on your art makes that like a sepia photograph which may not feel like a compliment to you but it definitely is in my mind. @gennepher thanks for both the video and much more cheerful creative today. Amazing patience and progress with Midnight. I have test results to translate and a telephone consultation later and of course today is salmon day. Have a great day whilst mindful of those who were and still are prepared to go above and beyond. Full respect to you all.
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Thank you @ianpspurs and I quite like sepia photographs - ta!
 
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