Beware of misleading ingredients.

[Billy Barroo]

Beware of the hidden ingredients in foods, drinks and supplements. The glycemic index (GI) in maltodextrin is higher than in table sugar. This means that the powder can cause a spike in your blood sugar shortly after ingesting foods and drinks that include it. A sudden increase in blood glucose in people with insulin resistance or diabetes can be fatal.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/.../agricultur.../maltodextrin

 

[lovinglife]

Don’t use ingredients apart from spices etc, always cook from fresh. But yes if on the rare occasion I do use something from a jar/can/packet I always scrutinise it, the term “fatal” is a bit strong though - it MAY increase your blood glucose- it’s not the case for everyone but I doubt it will kill anyone with one portion, even T1 who will be injecting for carbs I presume will be able to manage rises etc

 

[Billy Barroo]

Don’t use ingredients apart from spices etc, always cook from fresh. But yes if on the rare occasion I do use something from a jar/can/packet I always scrutinise it, the term “fatal” is a bit strong though - it MAY increase your blood glucose- it’s not the case for everyone but I doubt it will kill anyone with one portion, even T1 who will be injecting for carbs I presume will be able to manage rises etc

If you take enough of it, it might kill you, The same as drinking too much water, it too can be fatal.

 

[catinahat]

If you take enough of it, it might kill you,

Some time ago I remember someone incurred the wrath of the Mods for saying they considered carbohydrates to be poisonous.
I will be amazed if they let you get away with saying that FDA approved food additives could kill.

 

[AndBreathe]

Anything can kill anyone if they have an anaphalactic reaction to it, without immediate help. Aside from such a true allergy (as opposed to the much more common intolerance), I doubt anyone would come to life threatening harm (there are exceptions to everything) harm. More likely to experience some abdominal pain and a significantly strengthened relations relationship with their lavatory.

I just try to avoid additives where I can.

 

[HSSS]

What’s most misleading is that this bulking agent is found in many granulated artificial sweeteners (eg the little sachet type in cafes etc) leading a less informed diabetic into thinking it’s totally innocuous blood glucose wise.

 

[chrisjohnh]

If you take enough of it, it might kill you, The same as drinking too much water, it too can be fatal.

It is fatal just to be alive!

 

[catinahat]

What’s most misleading is that this bulking agent is found in many granulated artificial sweeteners (eg the little sachet type in cafes etc) leading a less informed diabetic into thinking it’s totally innocuous blood glucose wise.

I totally agree, it is misleading and I've been caught out a few times. Didn't kill me though, made me a little peeved because my blood sugar was higher than I like, but still here, not dead. (yet)

 

[Billy Barroo]

Some time ago I remember someone incurred the wrath of the Mods for saying they considered carbohydrates to be poisonous.
I will be amazed if they let you get away with saying that FDA approved food additives could kill.

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on the warnings. from 2 sources. The one above in the original post and the one below.

 

[Jaylee]

It is fatal just to be alive!

It’s interesting, because what I take from here. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322426#is-maltodextrin-safe

Is in a direct quote below from my source regarding diabetes is it may not do BGs any favours..

“Maltodextrin and diabetes

Maltodextrin has an even higher glycemic index (GI) than table sugar. This means that maltodextrin can cause a sharp increase, or spike, in people’s blood sugar shortly after they eat foods that contain it.

A spike in blood glucose can be particularly dangerous for people with diabetes or insulin resistance.

A high GI means that the sugars in these foods will quickly enter the bloodstream, where the body will absorb them. In contrast, complex carbohydrates, which include beans and whole-wheat pasta, are more healthful because the body absorbs them slowly. This makes people feel full for a more extended period.”

 

[Jaylee]

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on the warnings. from 2 sources. The one above in the original post and the one below.

Hi,

You mean the one linked here.. I’m not a huge fan of screenshots taken out of context.. https://www.webmd.com/diet/what-is-maltodextrin

Oddly, both sites seem to offer complex carbs as an alternative?? Which I happen to know is neither of our “bag.”

 

[Billy Barroo]

"A critically important new study by Laudisi et al1 shows that consumption of the food additive maltodextrin, incorporated into many processed foods, leads to the promotion of intestinal inflammation. These findings suggest that this broadly used food additive could be a risk factor for chronic inflammatory diseases"........Intestinal inflammation and chronic inflammatory diseases are the last things any diabetic needs.

Maltodextrin, Modern Stressor of the Intestinal Environment - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[KennyA]

"A critically important new study by Laudisi et al1 shows that consumption of the food additive maltodextrin, incorporated into many processed foods, leads to the promotion of intestinal inflammation. These findings suggest that this broadly used food additive could be a risk factor for chronic inflammatory diseases"........Intestinal inflammation and chronic inflammatory diseases are the last things any diabetic needs.

Maltodextrin, Modern Stressor of the Intestinal Environment - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You've just now posted a link to something that says maltodextrin is "inert and generally is regarded as safe by the US FDA". I am no fan of maltodextrin as a stealth carb but this seems to contradict your earlier claim concerning maltodextrin causing a BG spike that can be fatal. Do you have information about fatalities caused by maltodextrin that you have not shared?

 

[Billy Barroo]

Hi,

You mean the one linked here.. I’m not a huge fan of screenshots taken out of context.. https://www.webmd.com/diet/what-is-maltodextrin

Oddly, both sites seem to offer complex carbs as an alternative?? Which I happen to know is neither of our “bag.”

The purpose of the screen shot was to highlight where the word fatal came from......The offer of alternative complex carbs, or any other form of carbs is a definite no no for me. I personally don't need them.

 

[Billy Barroo]

You've just now posted a link to something that says maltodextrin is "inert and generally is regarded as safe by the US FDA". I am no fan of maltodextrin as a stealth carb but this seems to contradict your earlier claim concerning maltodextrin causing a BG spike that can be fatal. Do you have information about fatalities caused by maltodextrin that you have not shared?

That link was about the risk factors for chronic inflammatory diseases"........Quote: "Intestinal inflammation and chronic inflammatory diseases are the last things any diabetic needs". The BG spike that can be fatal is not my claim, it's the WebMD Editorial Contributors claim. If you want to find out more information about that, get in touch with them.

 

[KennyA]

That link was about the risk factors for chronic inflammatory diseases"........Quote: "Intestinal inflammation and chronic inflammatory diseases are the last things any diabetic needs". The BG spike that can be fatal is not my claim, it's the WebMD Editorial Contributors claim. If you want to find out more information about that, get in touch with them.

You chose to post it here. I would expect anyone posting something as dramatic as "can be fatal" would be able to back it up. Are you saying you don't know anything about it?

 

[Billy Barroo]

You chose to post it here. I would expect anyone posting something as dramatic as "can be fatal" would be able to back it up. Are you saying you don't know anything about it?

I know enough about it thank you, I'm a victim of misleading and hidden ingredients as I presume many others are and have been over the years. The can be fatal quote came from https://www.webmd.com/webmd-editorial-contributors, If you want to know more about the "can be fatal" quote ask them. Do your own research, then get back to me when you get an answer from them. I've cancelled several orders and asked for refunds many times in the past for their misleading ingredient lists My last cancellation was 3 days ago. I'm still waiting for them to respond.

 

[HSSS]

If you want to know more about the "can be fatal" quote ask them. Do your own research, then get back to me when you get an answer from them.

You are missing the point. The question being asked of you is why you chose to use that quote - using the dramatic claim of fatal if you personally have no knowledge of, cannot support and perhaps might not even agree with it?

 

[Jaylee]

I know enough about it thank you, I'm a victim of misleading and hidden ingredients as I presume many others are and have been over the years. The can be fatal quote came from https://www.webmd.com/webmd-editorial-contributors, If you want to know more about the "can be fatal" quote ask them. Do your own research, then get back to me when you get an answer from them. I've cancelled several orders and asked for refunds many times in the past for their misleading ingredient lists My last cancellation was 3 days ago. I'm still waiting for them to respond.

Hi,

How long were you using this maltodextrin (ordering it in.)before the “penny dropped?” (On the BG raising.)

Your screenshot in the OP suggest tablets used as a digestive aid..?

 

[KennyA]

I know enough about it thank you, I'm a victim of misleading and hidden ingredients as I presume many others are and have been over the years. The can be fatal quote came from https://www.webmd.com/webmd-editorial-contributors, If you want to know more about the "can be fatal" quote ask them. Do your own research, then get back to me when you get an answer from them. I've cancelled several orders and asked for refunds many times in the past for their misleading ingredient lists My last cancellation was 3 days ago. I'm still waiting for them to respond.

I would have thought that anyone posting a dramatic claim that something "can be fatal" on these forums should be able to substantiate that claim themselves rather than having to ask readers to try to do it. The link you've provided in any event does not have the quote on it and neither does it have anything about maltodextrin or even diabetes.