good A1c, good insulin levels, handle carbs well, but high fasting sugars...help?

[GOJIGANG]

so yeah, essentially my A1c is 5.2, my insulin levels are 2.5, and my body can handle 50g+ carb meals well...but my fasting numbers run high.

i've only tested my fasting numbers 3 times. first time i did, the results were 95. i had eaten a serving of peanut butter, a cup of yogurt, half a serving of nuts, and a bit of chicken. finished this 2 hours before bed. next day i ate the same stuff but with some frozen green beans and peas which added 10g carbs and 7g fiber to it all. the next morning i tested at 101mg/dL. then i tested after finishing dinner at like 6:30 so i had a 12 hour fast and the numbers ended up being 99. has blood work done about a month ago, but strangely wasn't given my fasting results so i'd imagine they were in the 80s-90s as it was an hour after i woke up and i had to ride my bike there...so not really truly as soon as i wake up fasted

now i am a high stress individual so maybe that affected the numbers. my sleep is also bad, i think??? most nights i wake up 1-3 times and fall back asleep within 10 minutes maybe. recently tho i've been sleeping alright with maybe waking up once for a few minutes. it's easier for me to get a better night of sleep when i'm exhausted by the end of the day.

but yeah, just kinda wanna hear some opinions on this. a person on reddit said that a non diabetics fasting numbers will NEVER exceed 100 except for maybe if they're stressed or had a bad night of sleep.

 

[lovinglife]

If you look at the chart I posted for you in your other thread none of your fasting number are high, they are completely normal, in fact optimal numbers for fasting BG. Yes, sleep patterns, anxiety, stress are all factors that can affect BG but that’s not happening in your case. Plus 3 random tests will tell you absolutely nothing

You’ve had lots of good advise and support on your other thread from people who are living with diabetes of all types on a daily basis, please listen to them, not some random on the internet.

You’re absolutely fine you’ve admitted you’re a “high stress individual” but this isn’t something you need to be stressing about. Go live your life, enjoy your food, yes eat healthy by all means, but you don’t need to be stressing about this.

Did you read the link that @KennyA posted for you in your other thread? It may be worth reading again to put your mind at ease. What you are experiencing are perfectly normal numbers for someone without diabetes


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[KennyA]

so yeah, essentially my A1c is 5.2, my insulin levels are 2.5, and my body can handle 50g+ carb meals well...but my fasting numbers run high.

i've only tested my fasting numbers 3 times. first time i did, the results were 95. i had eaten a serving of peanut butter, a cup of yogurt, half a serving of nuts, and a bit of chicken. finished this 2 hours before bed. next day i ate the same stuff but with some frozen green beans and peas which added 10g carbs and 7g fiber to it all. the next morning i tested at 101mg/dL. then i tested after finishing dinner at like 6:30 so i had a 12 hour fast and the numbers ended up being 99. has blood work done about a month ago, but strangely wasn't given my fasting results so i'd imagine they were in the 80s-90s as it was an hour after i woke up and i had to ride my bike there...so not really truly as soon as i wake up fasted

now i am a high stress individual so maybe that affected the numbers. my sleep is also bad, i think??? most nights i wake up 1-3 times and fall back asleep within 10 minutes maybe. recently tho i've been sleeping alright with maybe waking up once for a few minutes. it's easier for me to get a better night of sleep when i'm exhausted by the end of the day.

but yeah, just kinda wanna hear some opinions on this. a person on reddit said that a non diabetics fasting numbers will NEVER exceed 100 except for maybe if they're stressed or had a bad night of sleep.

Well, why do you believe some rando on Reddit who happens to be very wrong? Read the research I posted. You'll see just how wrong the Reddit individual is and that if anything your responses are muted.

Your blood glucose is normal. You do not have a problem with blood glucose. I think though that you have a problem with anxiety and have fixed on blood glucose as an issue when it simply isn't one for you.

 

[GOJIGANG]

If you look at the chart I posted for you in your other thread none of your fasting number are high, they are completely normal, in fact optimal numbers for fasting BG. Yes, sleep patterns, anxiety, stress are all factors that can affect BG but that’s not happening in your case. Plus 3 random tests will tell you absolutely nothing

You’ve had lots of good advise and support on your other thread from people who are living with diabetes of all types on a daily basis, please listen to them, not some random on the internet.

You’re absolutely fine you’ve admitted you’re a “high stress individual” but this isn’t something you need to be stressing about. Go live your life, enjoy your food, yes eat healthy by all means, but you don’t need to be stressing about this.

Did you read the link that @KennyA posted for you in your other thread? It may be worth reading again to put your mind at ease. What you are experiencing are perfectly normal numbers for someone without diabetes


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i'm sorry i don't mean to be annoying but how is high 90s and low 100s for fasting optimal when that's close to and considered pre-diabetic? i mean not that things are fine at 99 and bad at 101 but like these are borderline

 

[Rachox]

Just one question, do you take your fasting blood sugar test as soon as you wake up? And by that I mean before you even get out of bed. Once you get up and start moving around your level will go up, as your helpful liver chucks out glucose to help you get going for the day.

 

[KennyA]

i'm sorry i don't mean to be annoying but how is high 90s and low 100s for fasting optimal when that's close to and considered pre-diabetic? i mean not that things are fine at 99 and bad at 101 but like these are borderline

I don't know who considers 100mg/dl pre-diabetic. Where are you taking your information from?

If you look at the paper posted earlier you'll see that 99/100 mg/dl is the mean bg value for the population across the day measured via a CGM - which includes both fasted and post-meal values, and also implies that a fair proportion of the day was spent at levels above 100. The older non-diabetic people (+65 iirc) had a marginally higher mean value of 104mg/dl.

So if you're correct, none of the people used for this - despite being all medically asssessed as not diabetic - had normal blood glucose levels ?

 

[GOJIGANG]

Just one question, do you take your fasting blood sugar test as soon as you wake up? And by that I mean before you even get out of bed. Once you get up and start moving around your level will go up, as your helpful liver chucks out glucose to help you get going for the day.

i mean kinda. it's just a really short walk to the bathroom

i've only ever tested those three times because any attempt since those i can barely draw enough blood. the morning is really bad for me in terms of drawing blood so i just don't even bother testing. i mean i could probably draw enough blood in the morning but then it'd be half an hour upon waking and by then my sugars are probably down to high 80s-low 90s

 

[GOJIGANG]

I don't know who considers 100mg/dl pre-diabetic. Where are you taking your information from?

If you look at the paper posted earlier you'll see that 99/100 mg/dl is the mean bg value for the population across the day measured via a CGM - which includes both fasted and post-meal values, and also implies that a fair proportion of the day was spent at levels above 100. The older non-diabetic people (+65 iirc) had a marginally higher mean value of 104mg/dl.

So if you're correct, none of the people used for this - despite being all medically asssessed as not diabetic - had normal blood glucose levels ?

i'm just so confused...

 

[KennyA]

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I think you may have been caught out by the decision in the US to change definitions. The rest of the world has not altered. Basically what happened was that a couple of years ago the CDC decided to call what have always been viewed as normal blood glucose levels - "pre-diabetic". It just so happened that they had a "lower your blood glucose" program ready for sale. Probably just a coincidence.

For the rest of us, and those in the US who have not followed the CDC, normal blood glucose as measured via HbA1c (because fingerprick testing is unreliable and prone to error) is in the range 34-42mmol/mol, with most people clustered around 38. See the graph attached, of the HbA1c values for a non-diabetic population.

If you think you have Type 2 diabetes, you should get yourself to a doctor and have an HbA1c test done. That will tell you definitely whether or not you have elevated blood glucose levels. Please come back here and let us know your results.

 

[GOJIGANG]

I think you may have been caught out by the decision in the US to change definitions. The rest of the world has not altered. Basically what happened was that a couple of years ago the CDC decided to call what have always been viewed as normal blood glucose levels - "pre-diabetic". It just so happened that they had a "lower your blood glucose" program ready for sale. Probably just a coincidence.

For the rest of us, and those in the US who have not followed the CDC, normal blood glucose as measured via HbA1c (because fingerprick testing is unreliable and prone to error) is in the range 34-42mmol/mol, with most people clustered around 38. See the graph attached, of the HbA1c values for a non-diabetic population.

If you think you have Type 2 diabetes, you should get yourself to a doctor and have an HbA1c test done. That will tell you definitely whether or not you have elevated blood glucose levels. Please come back here and let us know your results.

you know what, i think i'm just gonna get away from all this blood sugar **** for a little while, maybe order a pizza on the weekend, and just relax

i need a break from this ****