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You will mutilate and kill me, so I will say goodby forever. Soon.

Totto said:
Why did you decide to give them up?

Why didn't patches work for you you think?
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I gave up because the money I was wasting I should have been spending on my family. Also, I was finding breathing difficult. I tried patches a few times and to be honest, had some success with them. My trouble was, as soon as I stopped using them, the cravings returned. I convinced myself I'd cracked it when I hadn't. I started off by having a single cigar. I convinced myself "this isn't really smoking". I soon ended up on 15 small cigars a day and then back to cigarettes. I now think all my failures, and there were many, was because I didn't TRULY want to quit. I was doing it for someone else, my wife, my family or my health. You've got to really want to do it for yourself. When the time is right, it will happen :-)

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Totto said:
I love you all! I wrote the post, served dinner, went out to the poly tunnel to do some work and wow, I got back to find a host of useful advice and lots of cheering too. Thank you!

My aim is to be tobacco-free, that is nicotine free so I have decide against e-cig. The Swedish snuff, hereafter called by its proper name Grovsnus, the make I use, is strong so the physical dependency is heavy. I feel however that the mental dependency on cigarettes is far worse.


I will start with Sally´s method as the first thing I do in the morning is to drink a large mug very strong coffee, smoke two or three fags and read the newspaper. So I will drink my coffee and read the paper, mind you this means I can read my on-line and pdf papers too if I am not out smoking, as I smoke outside but read most papers on my laptop inside. Good idea.

I have already changed from roll ups to ready cigarettes to stop me enjoying the handicraft. I have also limited the places I can smoke to not to smoke in the poly tunnel that is my main work place most of the year and a lovely place to be.

This will take time. I haven't decided on when to actually stop. I think I am a bit of a chicken.
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I use Sally's method to stop me eating forbidden food. Or a version of it on the odd day when I have a sudden urge to eat something I shouldn't. I say well it's your choice but what are the consequences? Do you still want to go ahead with that? Usually the answer is no. So therefore I haven't forbidden myself from having it. I have made am active choice not to eat it. It's all in the wording! Big hug!
 
mo1905 said:
I gave up because the money I was wasting I should have been spending on my family. Also, I was finding breathing difficult. I tried patches a few times and to be honest, had some success with them. My trouble was, as soon as I stopped using them, the cravings returned. I convinced myself I'd cracked it when I hadn't. I started off by having a single cigar. I convinced myself "this isn't really smoking". I soon ended up on 15 small cigars a day and then back to cigarettes. I now think all my failures, and there were many, was because I didn't TRULY want to quit. I was doing it for someone else, my wife, my family or my health. You've got to really want to do it for yourself. When the time is right, it will happen :)

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I love smoking. It is unfashionable and so am I. I want to smoke, Thing is, I also want to keep my feet in a usable condition, So I have to stop as it is suspected I have neuropathy in my toes, Keep on smoking and give up toes or keep toes and give up the fags. In the end I know I will stay on the toes side of things but it is hard to get there,
 
Well, you've certainly got your motivation. Hope you manage it but remember, if you do have an occasional failure and the odd cigarette, don't give in. Take care ! I would have a laminated photograph of my toes for those weak moments :-)

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Fifty rollups ... at least ... every day for just over forty years and some other stuff too.
The other stuff was more fun I got bored with it eventually and don't smoke that now.
Fags ... took me years of stopping and starting and deciding never to try stopping ever again.
Haven't smoked anything at all for a few years now.
Cold turkey.
Admit you're a junky because that's what you are and go for it.
You're a drug addict who's slowly poisoning himself ... possibly to death ... just do it.
It's now as expensive as proper street drugs I hear.
You're not having your head cut off ... you're not being water boarded or having your nuts wired up to the mains in some hell hole police station ... get it in perspective.
Everyone cries ... oh my God how will I do it ... how will I cope?
Just do it and stop acting like you're about to drown.
 
When it's a body part or parts there's really no dithering is there?
 
JACKTHELAD said:
Fifty rollups ... at least ... every day for just over forty years and some other stuff too.
The other stuff was more fun I got bored with it eventually and don't smoke that now.
Fags ... took me years of stopping and starting and deciding never to try stopping ever again.
Haven't smoked anything at all for a few years now.
Cold turkey.
Admit you're a junky because that's what you are and go for it.
You're a drug addict who's slowly poisoning himself ... possibly to death ... just do it.
It's now as expensive as proper street drugs I hear.
You're not having your head cut off ... you're not being water boarded or having your nuts wired up to the mains in some hell hole police station ... get it in perspective.
Everyone cries ... oh my God how will I do it ... how will I cope?
Just do it and stop acting like you're about to drown.
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Exactly. I am searching for TA groups, as in tobaccousers anonymous. Feel I need the 12 steps to take me through this,.
 
If I sound a bit cold about this then your perceptive powers are working.
All this oh it's so hard ... how am I going to cope etc etc ... helps no one.
Do it or don't.
If you need to go down the methadone substitution route then go for it.
 
Hi Totto, well done on your decision, I stopped smoking in February and haven't looked back.

It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I read Allen Carr's book "Stop Smoking The Easy Way", I really can't recommend it highly enough. It has something like an 85% success rate.
 
JACKTHELAD said:
If I sound a bit cold about this then your perceptive powers are working.
All this oh it's so hard ... how am I going to cope etc etc ... helps no one.
Do it or don't.
If you need to go down the methadone substitution route then go for it.
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I plan to go the methadone substitution route, be sure of that but I would love to have a TA group too to moan with.

And I will do it eventually. And I will moan and worry about if will cope, in short I will do all the user/abuser stuff. But I will not be ashamed of anything.
 
semiphonic said:
Hi Totto, well done on your decision, I stopped smoking in February and haven't looked back.

It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I read Allen Carr's book "Stop Smoking The Easy Way", I really can't recommend it highly enough. It has something like an 85% success rate.
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Seems I have to look into this Allen Carr book. Thank you!
 
Totto said:
I plan to go the methadone substitution route, be sure of that but I would love to have a TA group too to moan with.

And I will do it eventually. And I will moan and worry about if will cope, in short I will do all the user/abuser stuff. But I will not be ashamed of anything.
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You've got a great attitude ... you'll make it of that I'm sure :cool:
 
ecigs rock!!!!! i smoked 40-60 rolls every day since i was 13 odd since october 2012 the first day i bought an ecig i havent wanted a real one once, yes its better to not have any nicotene but i couldnt give up, this way i enjoy smoking at a fraction of the risk to health, i love ecigssss rah rah rah


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You could always try the 'smoking yourself sick' routine: 40 x Marlboro Red (or equivalent) with their filters cut off, then smoke as many as you possibly can in the shortest possible time until you feel physically sick.

It worked for me

... for about nine months, and then I was back on the social smoking scene.

So then one day, about two years later, whilst having a drag, I looked at the smouldering cigarette and thought: "***, I can't be ***** with this anymore."

I haven't touched one in over a decade: as most others have said, YOU have to choose not to want to do it anymore - just as we all have to choose not to do the things that screw up our diabetes control. It ain't necessarily easy, and you may need various bits of help / support along the way, but it's your body, you have to want to stop to have success.

Good luck and best wishes with it.
 
Totto said:
I love smoking. It is unfashionable and so am I. I want to smoke, Thing is, I also want to keep my feet in a usable condition, So I have to stop as it is suspected I have neuropathy in my toes, Keep on smoking and give up toes or keep toes and give up the fags. In the end I know I will stay on the toes side of things but it is hard to get there,
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To steal an old saying and change it...

Stopping smoking is hard.
Losing your toes is hard.
Choose your hard.


:)
 
My father was a heavy smoker who was told by the doctor to give up after a fairly nasty bout of pneumonia. He never smoked again as far as I'm aware, but he also became the world's worst anti-smoker too!!

He was a bloody minded man and it obviously stood him in good stead in this situation. How bloody minded are you, Totto!?? :p:p

Robbity
 
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