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JACKTHELAD said:
I live in Wales and what happens here and in Scotland is that the resources available are used differently than in England.
Wales and Scotland are traditionally more socialist in their approach to supporting people and communities while allowing business a relatively free hand.
Hence free prescriptions and education.
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and hence NHS England is doing a great deal better than NHS Wales at the moment.
 
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Thomas Jefferson
 
"We can have a democratic society or we can have the concentration of great wealth in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."
-- Louis Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice from 1916-1939
 
I care about nhs however I also care about having bought own house and whats going to happen if I or hubby need a care home......

I have a DNR on my life, hubby hasn't but tonight he asked for it to be sorted out as no way does he want what we have to go to the govt for our care if we need care.

He also said that if anything happened and he died.. Same as me... That the other person left surviving should move to Scotland.

My voting won't just be on the NHS..
 
donnellysdogs said:
I care about nhs however I also care about having bought own house and whats going to happen if I or hubby need a care home......

I have a DNR on my life, hubby hasn't but tonight he asked for it to be sorted out as no way does he want what we have to go to the govt for our care if we need care.

He also said that if anything happened and he died.. Same as me... That the other person left surviving should move to Scotland.

My voting won't just be on the NHS..
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Not sure but I think you can now go into a care home and keep seventy five grand of your money.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
and hence NHS England is doing a great deal better than NHS Wales at the moment.
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It all depends on whose opinion your quoting a a Welsh patient or a Tory minister!

The health service is crumbling because of the lack of social care that the funding has been withdrawn from by the government!

Wrexham based doctor for the elderly on question time.

It shouldn't be about politics it should about healthcare before critical care and actually looking after the people!
 
JACKTHELAD said:
Not sure but I think you can now go into a care home and keep seventy five grand of your money.
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But why should you be able to, especially if you have no one to leave it to like me? It costs the country money to pay for you in the care home....
 
nosher8355 said:
It all depends on whose opinion your quoting a a Welsh patient or a Tory minister!

The health service is crumbling because of the lack of social care that the funding has been withdrawn from by the government!

Wrexham based doctor for the elderly on question time.

It shouldn't be about politics it should about healthcare before critical care and actually looking after the people!
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A House of Commons Report out recently. NHS Wales is in a worse mess than NHS England. Seems undeniable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mons-study-confirms-Mail-s-reports-right.html
 
What is the point of having societies and even countries if the only people who can take money out of it ... be supported by it are the very wealthy .... that's how it mostly is now and becoming even more so.
What is it with this we must serve the rich and wealthy we must keep them happy at all costs for our very survival counts on it?
They won't run away ... there's no where for them to run away to.
They have far to much at stake but this serf mentality has to stop.
They can keep their money ... they can inherit great wealth never having done a days work or having much of a clue about anything.
But the people no ... they must hand everything over to the state ... to their lords and masters.
Don't think for a moment you'll be any better off if people have to hand it over.
It made no difference to my standing while people were being made to hand it over.
We work we raise families we contribute to society and then at the end we shuffle off to prison.
A fairly comfortable open prison but prison none the less.
Can't have any personal effects can't have any money in the bank to spend on our selves can't pop out to the pub can't go to the theatre.
Live with others and be cared for by others who know nothing at all about the tapestry of our lives and aren't interested in hearing it.
I did this I did that but no one is listening.
What a way to end a life!
 
Bluetit1802 said:
A House of Commons Report out recently. NHS Wales is in a worse mess than NHS England. Seems undeniable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mons-study-confirms-Mail-s-reports-right.html
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I have no idea how true it is but not the experience of most people I know here.
The ambulances will never be abvle to match England simply because of the nature of roads mountains valleys etc here.
The nearest copper to me on a 999 call to my house might be thirty miles away .... thirty miles of dark winding roads away.
If you live in Barmouth and your baby starts arriving or you're having a heart attack then you have to be taken to Bangor hospital sixty miles away.
Sixty miles of very narrow winding roadsso comparing it with England as a whole might not be realistic.
Average figures in England will naturally include massive cities and towns with motorway links and other modern roads and with services two three five miles away.... we don't have that here.
The averages here will be taken from small towns and very small villages and a population that live in neither but very remotely.
We have a lot of village hospitals.
If my doc wants me to go for a blood test I take the envelope to my nearest village hospital without appointment there and then so long as it's before eleven am.
Same with X-rays.
I doubt there many places in England that can be done.

My personal view is that government of any colour should fund the NHS but butt out on decision making.
I feel the same about education too.
Pay up then butt out.
 
When averages are taken over a year then that will include winters which can be long and hard compared with England.
Many times we are snowed in and no ambulances or police cars are going anywhere for a week.
Hospital staff can't get to work can't leave the hospital to go home from work.
Then there are the summer and winter floods!
The landslides in the hills and the breaching of the sea walls on the coast.
These events are regular and will seriously impact on any such studies.
I suspect it's a bit like comparing apples and oranges.
Imagine the heart attack victim or the pregnant woman in the figures when the ambulance does that sixty mile run on roads where all to often you get stuck behind an Ifor Williams trailer!
The Barmouth to Bangor dash can take anything from an hour to two hours.
 
tim2000s said:
But why should you be able to, especially if you have no one to leave it to like me? It costs the country money to pay for you in the care home....
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To be honest my reasoning is still biased towardspeople that have worked hard, saved and tried to pay for their own pensions...
Seeing people that haven't struggled to do this and still get the same care makes it harder...
I haven't got children or relatives to look after me until the end....not my fault.. But my genes.

To be honest...having worked incare homes for a while previously I'mmot going to judge on this.... Not from what you said.. But I've just realised that I've never seen a T1 in one!! So chances of it happening to me is very small!!
 
JACKTHELAD said:
I have no idea how true it is but not the experience of most people I know here.
The ambulances will never be abvle to match England simply because of the nature of roads mountains valleys etc here.
The nearest copper to me on a 999 call to my house might be thirty miles away .... thirty miles of dark winding roads away.
If you live in Barmouth and your baby starts arriving or you're having a heart attack then you have to be taken to Bangor hospital sixty miles away.
Sixty miles of very narrow winding roadsso comparing it with England as a whole might not be realistic.
Average figures in England will naturally include massive cities and towns with motorway links and other modern roads and with services two three five miles away.... we don't have that here.
The averages here will be taken from small towns and very small villages and a population that live in neither but very remotely.
We have a lot of village hospitals.
If my doc wants me to go for a blood test I take the envelope to my nearest village hospital without appointment there and then so long as it's before eleven am.
Same with X-rays.
I doubt there many places in England that can be done.

My personal view is that government of any colour should fund the NHS but butt out on decision making.
I feel the same about education too.
Pay up then butt out.
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Hear! Hear!
 
JACKTHELAD said:
I live in Wales and what happens here and in Scotland is that the resources available are used differently than in England.
Wales and Scotland are traditionally more socialist in their approach to supporting people and communities while allowing business a relatively free hand.
Hence free prescriptions and education.
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Just one small point, may I respectfully suggest that you check the Institute of Fiscal Studies and look at public spending in the United Kingdom (United?). Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland all have more money, per person, to spend, never mind spending the money on different things. We don't really have a level playing field by any means.
 
It's never going to be a level playing field.
Take school transport for instance.
In Wales private companies supplying school transport from taxis mini busses regular busses specially adapted busses is huge!
Why?
Because school can be twenty miles away for huge numbers of pupils.
If the school is say three miles away it might well be like where I live and there are no pavements.
Narrow winding sixty mile an hour roads with no accommodation for pedestrians or cyclists.
I'm guessing but maybe 90% of roads here are like that.
So the schools transport bill alone is huge and essential.
A lot of these situations cannot be compared.
There are thousands of homes without mains gas .... thousands without mains sewage.
The expense of routing through granite mountains and valleys and forrests makes the task impossible.
Before the gas was privatised mains gas was going to be supplied to the whole of Anglesey.
It came to a halt on privatisation before a third of the job was completed because it would have taken far to long to make any dosh.
Essential services should have remained essential and not monetised but a lot of these comparrisons are a little suspect.
 
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