Type 2's: What was your fasting blood glucose in a morning?

[itchyfeet]

Morning everyone
6.3 for me today

 

[vit90]

It's a natural kick start to the day that all people have. Just that people with Diabetes don't have the correct pancreatic reaction to balance the liver's kickstart.

I too think it's related to waking up but, more specifically, circadian rhythms. I believe it may adjust it's timing depending on sleeping and waking pattern. My own tends to be around 7am.

Yesterday my waking test was 6.4 mmol / L at 07:51.
Later on my bold glucose was 7.3 mmol / L at 09:53 prior to my BulletProof Coffee.

Today's waking test was 5.4 mmol / L at 06:26.
I'll update when I have this morning's BulletProof Coffee.

Did you have any breakfast before your coffee?

Have you done a middle of the night test for the Somogyi effect (high morning glucose levels because of reaction to low night time glucose).

Bottom line is that insulin sensitivity needs to be improved to fix the dawn effect.

Separate subject; curious to know if you make the coffee with coconut oil, MCT oil, butter or a combination? Not tried it myself but I do have a couple of Americanos each morning (black with sucralose sweetener).

 

[RobOwen]

Tested a litlle while after waking rather than straight away and 5.5

 

[MosheBenYehuda]

Did you have any breakfast before your coffee?

Have you done a middle of the night test for the Somogyi effect (high morning glucose levels because of reaction to low night time glucose).

Bottom line is that insulin sensitivity needs to be improved to fix the dawn effect.

Separate subject; curious to know if you make the coffee with coconut oil, MCT oil, butter or a combination? Not tried it myself but I do have a couple of Americanos each morning (black with sucralose sweetener).

Lost here...
Coffee with coconut oil, etc?
Please help

 

[oldman1954]

Morning all 6.1 no breakfast for me this morn fasting bloods to be taken at mid day.

 

[Larissima]

My dawn phenomenon seems to kick in around 7am; on the two days per week I get up at 6.30, my FBG is lower than in the rest of the week. Today is one of those days, and my FBG is 5.5 (usually over 6).

 

[loulou99782]

Morning all 6.1 no breakfast for me this morn fasting bloods to be taken at mid day.

Mid day seems late for fasting blood test. Our blood test place opens @7:30 and does a walk in service if you have got you forms

 

[brettsza]

Lost here...
Coffee with coconut oil, etc?
Please help

It's bullet proof coffe.
Recipe is on the forum, I haven't tried it myself but sounds nice.

 

[oldman1954]

Mid day seems late for fasting blood test. Our blood test place opens @7:30 and does a walk in service if you have got you forms

Ours don`t open till mid day on a tuesday.

 

[hankjam]

Lost here...
Coffee with coconut oil, etc?
Please help

You really don't want to know what some folks do to their coffee.... and it is popular!

 

[hankjam]

4.7 am

 

[loulou99782]

Ours don`t open till mid day on a tuesday.

Fair enough cant go till they open

You really don't want to know what some folks do to their coffee.... and it is popular!

That's true I prefer mine with unsweetened soya milk or black. You don't spoil good coffee

 

[WeeFergus]

Good morning all. I had a 6.6 BG fasting reading this morning after a bedtime one of 7.0.

 

[mohanankur]

4.5 this morning

 

[emptyplate]

Did you have any breakfast before your coffee?

Nope! Intermittent / fat fasting.

Have you done a middle of the night test for the Somogyi effect (high morning glucose levels because of reaction to low night time glucose).

No, but, I definitely should! Thank you for reminding me about this. I thought (perhaps incorrectly) that it was more relevant to type 1s?

Bottom line is that insulin sensitivity needs to be improved to fix the dawn effect.

Definitely agree - demonstrated by my low carb day yesterday and my low morning fasting today.

Separate subject; curious to know if you make the coffee with coconut oil, MCT oil, butter or a combination? Not tried it myself but I do have a couple of Americanos each morning (black with sucralose sweetener).

The original Dave Asprey recipe that I use is MCT oil, grass fed butter, good quality (toxin free - wet processed) coffee.

I use BulletProof Coffee to fat fast - intermittent style. It works for me. I've tried it with coconut oil instead of MCT but, I find I'm hungrier quicker and get an energy crash sooner with it as opposed to MCT Oil. Having looked at it that's perfectly understandable as there's not much of the biological MCTs in Coconut Oil. It did taste rather good though!

 

[vit90]

Lost here...
Coffee with coconut oil, etc?
Please help

It sounds disgusting and I haven't yet tried it myself but google bullet-proof coffee. Basically it's a fad whereby people put espresso coffee in a blender and wiz the coffee with either butter, coconut oil (which has the consistency of butter) or MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) oil. The latter is a refinement of coconut oil and very expensive! It's supposed to taste good and give you an energy boost if you are in ketosis as the saturated fats are quickly converted by the body into energy. It's high in calories but less likely to be deposited as fat as long as it's used up through activity compared to carbs and of course it has little effect on blood glucose.

Edit: As Nomistheman pointed out, one benefit is that it curbs hunger for a good period - much longer than when eating a similar dose of calories via carbs. However, LCHF and protein will also satisfy appetite better than carbs.

 

[emptyplate]

Fair enough cant go till they open



That's true I prefer mine with unsweetened soya milk or black. You don't spoil good coffee

Yeah, good Coffee is like good Whiskey (note the spelling) the only thing you put with it is more of the same!

However, BulletProof Coffee is a wonderful tool for fat / intermittent fasting. Well for me it is.

I must admit I was a bit cautious about butter in my coffee but, then it's just churned cream. The bonus is there's less carbs in butter than cream!

 

[emptyplate]

It sounds disgusting and I haven't yet tried it myself but google bullet-proof coffee. Basically it's a fad whereby people put espresso coffee in a blender and wiz the coffee with either butter, coconut oil (which has the consistency of butter) or MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) oil. The latter is a refinement of coconut oil and very expensive! It's supposed to taste good and give you an energy boost if you are in ketosis as the saturated fats are quickly converted by the body into energy. It's high in calories but less likely to be deposited as fat as long as it's used up through activity compared to carbs and of course it has little effect on blood glucose.

I thought it sounded disgusting but, was surprised at how lovely it truly is.

I can tell you, from my personal experience, it's no fad! It blooming well works!

Check out my postings above.

 

[emptyplate]

It's bullet proof coffe.
Recipe is on the forum, I haven't tried it myself but sounds nice.

Technically, with coconut oil - it's not BulletProof. I did like the flavour though.

 

[vit90]

Nope! Intermittent / fat fasting.



No, but, I definitely should! Thank you for reminding me about this. I thought (perhaps incorrectly) that it was more relevant to type 1s?



Definitely agree - demonstrated by my low carb day yesterday and my low morning fasting today.



The original Dave Asprey recipe that I use is MCT oil, grass fed butter, good quality (toxin free - wet processed) coffee.

I use BulletProof Coffee to fat fast - intermittent style. It works for me. I've tried it with coconut oil instead of MCT but, I find I'm hungrier quicker and get an energy crash sooner with it as opposed to MCT Oil. Having looked at it that's perfectly understandable as there's not much of the biological MCTs in Coconut Oil. It did taste rather good though!

Somogyi is most relevant to Type 1s but does happen more rarely with some Type 2s.

This site is a bit lukewarm on MCT oil http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/mct-oil-vs-coconut-oil-the-truth-exposed/

I am cautious when there is no scientific association in the text and related to the author, but it's an interesting read.