poemagraphic

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As I type this, I am coming to the end of my second month here at diabetes.co.uk. 26/05/2019
I came here two months ago with no knowledge of LCHF whatsoever.


To be honest I had very little knowledge of type 2 diabetes… Other than to say… “I knew I had it”
I had literally just come out of hospital, where I had been admitted for a very virulent virus.


Long story short:


On my admission I had elevated BG levels, a blinding headache, a rash covering most of my body, an extremely high blood pressure, shortness of breath, the tremors, dizziness, confusion. In short I felt that I was about to die. I am being deadly serious… (no pun intended).


The first thing the specialist that saw me did, was to stop my metformin and place me on 100units/ml of insulin and 80mg of Glicaside twice a day.


I was placed on a saline drip for 2days and nights as I had very low sodium levels.
At this point I had not eaten at all for 6 days. I had lost a stone in weight!


After armfuls of blood and test after test after test, I was released after 3 days without any knowledge of what had happened to me (All the tests came back negative). Well positive in the sense that practically every condition known to man had been ruled out.


All I knew for certain was that now I was injecting insulin every night, and having to take 2 Glicaside tablets a day.
I still felt very ill and had a month off work recovering.


I drive for a living and cover over a thousand miles a week. I had to inform DVLA that I was now insulin dependent.

WELL! That one word ‘dependant’ did not sit well with me.


From the moment I got home from hospital I spend almost that whole first month here at www.diabetes.co.uk reading up on Type 2 diabetes and what that really entailed.


It took me a very short amount of time to realise that several of the members here enthused about something called ‘LCHF’.
I had a lot of abbreviations to catch up on before I knew what people were talking about.


This one 'LCHF', perhaps more than any other, seemed to make so much sense… and yet, it went against almost everything I had been told about what to eat.


I had had a meeting with a diabetic nurse before I left hospital who talked in depth about ‘diet’. She gave me several leaflets to read up on that would help me understand what things to eat and what to avoid.

Confusion set in...

I was not alone in having this dichotomy. (That’s not a medical condition btw)


So many posters here were having such life changing things happen when they began this elusive, LCHF diet… Which is in fact, anything but elusive.


It was simply a fact that eating fewer carbohydrates and having more fat could change, alter, improve, blood sugar, and reduce insulin dependence. (There was that dreaded word again)


WHAT? Reduce my insulin dependence! Crumbs some even stopped having to have insulin altogether!!


So I had to know more how this happens and then give it a try myself.

I will not here, go in to any details about the science behind a LCHF diet, there is a wealth of information here on this site to digest (pun intended).


My personal story is:


I reduced my insulin from 100mg within the first month by 20%.


I was now in my second month, having to test every 2 hours as I could not drop below 5 on the tester and legally drive. It soon became apparent that my drop in 'carbs' correlated to the need to reduce my insulin and my ‘Glicaside’ to prevent me going ‘HYPO’.


I have posted on my signature how I accomplished this.


Upon my first visit with my diabetic specialist my meter was taken away to download the ‘numbers’
I was testing 8, 9. 10 times a day, every day!


In the twelve years that this ‘specialist’ had been doing his job he exclaimed “I have never seen figures this good” he went on to say “Perhaps only two or three have come close to these numbers in all that time!”


He went on to say


“I do not consider that you need to continue taking insulin and should stop with immediate effect”


Not at all what me and my fantastic wife had expected to hear. WE thought that he would be upset that I had taken it upon myself to reduce my insulin by 30% and tablets by 50% over the last two months.


He went on to further say, I should reduce my Glicaside to 40mg a day and see how things go.


He then said “I do not need to see you again you are discharged”


So, is this a success story?


Well only time will tell, as the real work starts each and every morning from today onwards.





To conclude I would like to say a huge thank you to the mods and everybody who toils away in the background here at this font of knowledge that we all drink from.


Plus remembering all the great members and posters here who have inspired and guided me to this point… Oh! and for putting up with some of my doggerel.


Po
 
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As I type this, I am coming to the end of my second month here at diabetes.co.uk. 26/05/2019
I came here two months ago with no knowledge of LCHF whatsoever.


To be honest I had very little knowledge of type 2 diabetes… Other than to say… “I knew I had it”
I had literally just come out of hospital, where I had been admitted for a very virulent virus.


Long story short:


On my admission I had elevated BG levels, a blinding headache, a rash covering most of my body, an extremely high blood pressure, shortness of breath, the tremors, dizziness, confusion. In short I felt that I was about to die. I am being deadly serious… (no pun intended).


The first thing the specialist that saw me did, was to stop my metformin and place me on 100units/ml of insulin and 80mg of Glicaside twice a day.


I was placed on a saline drip for 2days and nights as I had very low sodium levels.
At this point I had not eaten at all for 6 days. I had lost a stone in weight!


After armfuls of blood and test after test after test, I was released after 3 days without any knowledge of what had happened to me (All the tests came back negative). Well positive in the sense that practically every condition known to man had been ruled out.


All I knew for certain was that now I was injecting insulin every night, and having to take 2 Glicaside tablets a day.
I still felt very ill and had a month off work recovering.


I drive for living and cover over a thousand miles a week. I had to inform DVLA that I was now insulin dependent.

WELL! That one word ‘dependant’ did not sit well with me.


From the moment I got home from hospital I spend almost that whole first month here at www.diabetes.co.uk reading up on Type 2 diabetes and what that really entailed.


It took me a very short amount of time to realise that several of the members here enthused about something called ‘LCHF’.
I had a lot of abbreviations to catch up on before I knew what people were talking about.


This one 'LCHF', perhaps more than any other, seemed to make so much sense… and yet, it went against almost everything I had been told about what to eat.


I had had a meeting with a diabetic nurse before I left hospital who talked in depth about ‘diet’. She gave me several leaflets to read up on that would help me understand what things to eat and what to avoid.

Confusion set in...

I was not alone in having this dichotomy. (That’s not a medical condition btw)


So many posters here were having such life changing things happen when they began this elusive, LCHF diet… Which was in fact, everything but elusive.


It was simply a fact that eating fewer carbohydrates and having more fat could change, alter, improve, blood sugar, and reduce insulin dependence. (There was that dreaded word again)


WHAT? Reduce my insulin dependence! Crumbs some even stopped having to have insulin altogether!!


So I had to know more how this happens and then give it a try myself.

I will not here, go in to any details about the science behind a LCHF diet, there is a wealth of information here on this site to digest (pun intended).


My personal story is:


I reduced my insulin from 100mg within the first month by 20%.


I was now in my second month, having to test every 2 hours as I could not drop below 5 on the tester and legally drive. It soon became apparent that my drop in 'carbs' correlated to the need to reduce my insulin and my ‘Glicaside’ to prevent me going ‘HYPO’.


I have posted on my signature how I accomplished this.


Upon my first visit with my diabetic specialist my meter was taken away to download the ‘numbers’
I was testing 8, 9. 10 times a day, every day!


In the twelve years that this ‘specialist’ had been doing his job he exclaimed “I have never seen figures this good” he went on to say “Perhaps only two or three have come close to these numbers in all that time!”


He went on to say


“I do not consider that you need to continue taking insulin and should stop with immediate effect”


Not at all what me and my fantastic wife had expected to hear. WE thought that he would be upset that I had taken it upon myself to reduce my insulin by 30% and tablets by 50% over the last two months.


He went on to further say, I should reduce my Glicaside to 40mg a day and see how things go.


He then said “I do not need to see you again you are discharged”


So, is this a success story?


Well only time will tell, as the real work starts each and every morning from today onwards.





To conclude I would like to say a huge thank you to the mods and everybody who toils away in the background here at this font of knowledge that we all drink from.


Plus remembering all the great members and posters here who have inspired and guided me to this point… Oh! and for putting up with some of my doggerel.


Po
Wow. What an inspiration to everyone you are and what an incredibly, brave journey you've had. I admire how open to the forum you were from the beginning. My journey started two years ago and I took one look at the forum and decided to go it alone. It's been a dark and desperate journey without the knowledge and support from the members here. I'm pleased to say now, that although I've only been here just over a week, I feel like I've learnt more from the posts here than I did in my two years researching on my own.
 
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Way to go Po!
Keep posting and inspiring!
Who knows where a lot of us would be if we hadn’t discovered this forum and low carbing :)
 
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Wow. What an inspiration to everyone you are and what an incredible, brave journey you've had. I admire how open to the forum you were from the beginning. My journey started two years ago and I took one look at the forum and decided to go it alone. It's been a dark and desperate journey without the knowledge and support from the members on this forum. I'm pleased to say now, that although I've only been here just over a week, I feel like I've learnt more from the posts here than I did in my two years researching on my own.
I am so pleased you have found help comfort and solace here.
Your comments have brought a tear to my eyes... (That are now both white again ;) I looked a bit like a panda last week at this time.;)
Po
 

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Way to go Po!
Keep posting and inspiring!
Who knows where a lot of us would be if we hadn’t discovered this forum and low carbing :)
Together we are changing the world of diabetes one post at a time...
 

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Fantastic fantastic work @poemagraphic as this is most certainly a success story!
 
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Back in February I was lost. I was getting nowhere with local surgery, the messages were both mixed and confusing. I knew the dietary advice wasn’t working and was contemplating upping the amount of fruit I was eating. I started to google diabetes and diet and found posts from this forum that detailed a way forward. Following up on that I could see all the success stories and how success was achieved. So I identify with your story, @poemagraphic . The results are almost miraculous.
 

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As I type this, I am coming to the end of my second month here at diabetes.co.uk. 26/05/2019
I came here two months ago with no knowledge of LCHF whatsoever.


To be honest I had very little knowledge of type 2 diabetes… Other than to say… “I knew I had it”
I had literally just come out of hospital, where I had been admitted for a very virulent virus.


Long story short:


On my admission I had elevated BG levels, a blinding headache, a rash covering most of my body, an extremely high blood pressure, shortness of breath, the tremors, dizziness, confusion. In short I felt that I was about to die. I am being deadly serious… (no pun intended).


The first thing the specialist that saw me did, was to stop my metformin and place me on 100units/ml of insulin and 80mg of Glicaside twice a day.


I was placed on a saline drip for 2days and nights as I had very low sodium levels.
At this point I had not eaten at all for 6 days. I had lost a stone in weight!


After armfuls of blood and test after test after test, I was released after 3 days without any knowledge of what had happened to me (All the tests came back negative). Well positive in the sense that practically every condition known to man had been ruled out.


All I knew for certain was that now I was injecting insulin every night, and having to take 2 Glicaside tablets a day.
I still felt very ill and had a month off work recovering.


I drive for living and cover over a thousand miles a week. I had to inform DVLA that I was now insulin dependent.

WELL! That one word ‘dependant’ did not sit well with me.


From the moment I got home from hospital I spend almost that whole first month here at www.diabetes.co.uk reading up on Type 2 diabetes and what that really entailed.


It took me a very short amount of time to realise that several of the members here enthused about something called ‘LCHF’.
I had a lot of abbreviations to catch up on before I knew what people were talking about.


This one 'LCHF', perhaps more than any other, seemed to make so much sense… and yet, it went against almost everything I had been told about what to eat.


I had had a meeting with a diabetic nurse before I left hospital who talked in depth about ‘diet’. She gave me several leaflets to read up on that would help me understand what things to eat and what to avoid.

Confusion set in...

I was not alone in having this dichotomy. (That’s not a medical condition btw)


So many posters here were having such life changing things happen when they began this elusive, LCHF diet… Which was in fact, everything but elusive.


It was simply a fact that eating fewer carbohydrates and having more fat could change, alter, improve, blood sugar, and reduce insulin dependence. (There was that dreaded word again)


WHAT? Reduce my insulin dependence! Crumbs some even stopped having to have insulin altogether!!


So I had to know more how this happens and then give it a try myself.

I will not here, go in to any details about the science behind a LCHF diet, there is a wealth of information here on this site to digest (pun intended).


My personal story is:


I reduced my insulin from 100mg within the first month by 20%.


I was now in my second month, having to test every 2 hours as I could not drop below 5 on the tester and legally drive. It soon became apparent that my drop in 'carbs' correlated to the need to reduce my insulin and my ‘Glicaside’ to prevent me going ‘HYPO’.


I have posted on my signature how I accomplished this.


Upon my first visit with my diabetic specialist my meter was taken away to download the ‘numbers’
I was testing 8, 9. 10 times a day, every day!


In the twelve years that this ‘specialist’ had been doing his job he exclaimed “I have never seen figures this good” he went on to say “Perhaps only two or three have come close to these numbers in all that time!”


He went on to say


“I do not consider that you need to continue taking insulin and should stop with immediate effect”


Not at all what me and my fantastic wife had expected to hear. WE thought that he would be upset that I had taken it upon myself to reduce my insulin by 30% and tablets by 50% over the last two months.


He went on to further say, I should reduce my Glicaside to 40mg a day and see how things go.


He then said “I do not need to see you again you are discharged”


So, is this a success story?


Well only time will tell, as the real work starts each and every morning from today onwards.





To conclude I would like to say a huge thank you to the mods and everybody who toils away in the background here at this font of knowledge that we all drink from.


Plus remembering all the great members and posters here who have inspired and guided me to this point… Oh! and for putting up with some of my doggerel.


Po
I love that you found the way too. I hate the way that is diabetics need to find our own way in the dark. This has to change and soon!!!
 
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This place is such a miraculous place in its own right. There are not many forums that are so friendly and its members so non-judgmental.

It could be because we are all in the same boat being tossed around on an ocean of uncertainty.

This site is like a safe harbour. With a real ‘All for one and one for all’ mentality.

Long may it continue to be a lighthouse to warn others of the perils and rocks of erroneous information. Crumbs that is a mixed bag of metaphors!

Po
 

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This place is such a miraculous place in its own right. There are not many forums that are so friendly and its members so non-judgmental.

It could be because we are all in the same boat being tossed around on an ocean of uncertainty.

This site is like a safe harbour. With a real ‘All for one and one for all’ mentality.

Long may it continue to be a lighthouse to warn others of the perils and rocks of erroneous information. Crumbs that is a mixed bag of metaphors!

Po
Excellent news and well done to you for doing it yourself. Please carry on amazing your specialist with your results..
 
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Excellent news and well done to you for doing it yourself. Please carry on amazing your specialist with your results..

I hope and pray he has many many more people that have similar results.
What I found astounding was he never once asked what I was eating or how I went from the top of his scale to the bottom (In the normal non-diabetic range) in two months.

btw: You played a large part in my success... I could never have done this without the help, knowledge and understanding of this site and the people that post here.
Po
 
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Back in February I was lost. I was getting nowhere with local surgery, the messages were both mixed and confusing. I knew the dietary advice wasn’t working and was contemplating upping the amount of fruit I was eating. I started to google diabetes and diet and found posts from this forum that detailed a way forward. Following up on that I could see all the success stories and how success was achieved. So I identify with your story, @poemagraphic . The results are almost miraculous.
#12 was an answer to this post... my internet went down listlad
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What I found astounding was he never once asked what I was eating or how I went from the top of his scale to the bottom (In the normal non-diabetic range) in two months.
I find that lack of curiosity in the medical profession quite amazing too.. One DN I saw thought my low HbA1c was due to insulin overdosing..then she realised I wasn't on any medication whatsoever but I almost had to force what I had done onto her.. then of course she gave the usual.. "oh I couldn't ever do that"! My remark that I was quite attached to my eyes and toes so found it quite easy fell on deaf ears worse luck... hey ho.
 

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I love that you found the way too. I hate the way that is diabetics need to find our own way in the dark. This has to change and soon!!!

It took years for us to get in this mess Deb and I suspect it will take many more before the doctors and nurses of the future get the training and knowledge they will need to end this modern day 21st Century scourge of diabetes.

It plagues so many who feed on the non-nutritious foods that go 'ping' or are dished out at establishments 'designed' to keep us sick and the big pharma companies and grain and dairy producers in the manner to which they feel is their god given right.

A tad harsh... perhaps... However that is exactly how I feel.
Rant over. (No actually it's not, I've not even started yet TBH).
I feel a poem coming on.
Po
 
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I find that lack of curiosity in the medical profession quite amazing too.. One DN I saw thought my low HbA1c was due to insulin overdosing..then she realised I wasn't on any medication whatsoever but I almost had to force what I had done onto her.. then of course she gave the usual.. "oh I couldn't ever do that"! My remark that I was quite attached to my eyes and toes so found it quite easy fell on deaf ears worse luck... hey ho.
I posted the wrong emojithingamebobthing It WOULD be funny if it was NOT true.
 

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It took years for us to get in this mess Deb and I suspect it will take many more before the doctors and nurses of the future get the training and knowledge they will need to end this modern day 21st Century scourge of diabetes.

It plagues so many who feed on the non-nutritious foods that go 'ping' or are dished out at establishments 'designed' to keep us sick and the big pharma companies and grain and dairy producers in the manner to which they feel is their god given right.

A tad harsh... perhaps... However that is exactly how I feel.
Rant over. (No actually it's not, I've not even started yet TBH).
I feel a poem coming on.
Po

Me too:

Drs and nurses giving bad advice
Come on you lot that's really not nice
Think of the people struggling along
What you are doing is totally wrong
Listen to us, you will learn so much
You are frighteningly so out of touch
Give proper advice on the way of eating
Instead of the eatwell you keep on bleating
What works for one doesn't work for all
But you are simply setting us all up for a fall
For me and for many low carb is the way
I try and spread the word all I can every day
In the hope that more suffers can learn
Avoiding the suffering is my only concern
So onwards and upwards to fight the good fight
I will continue to do my bit for our plight!!!