Thanks for that beancounter, went for the easy option though, ready made one from asda, on offer at 3 for £2.50, exactly 250g! Sat with the family whilst they had their roast chicken dinner! The slimfast must have made with water, remember no dairy products whatsoever. Thats a fantastic reading Geordie, its clear that exercise is one of the main keys to this diet. My exercise starts tomorrow, how I wish I could try surfing in the North Sea!! Im in landlocked Derbyshire