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Type 1.5 1000g carbs a day! WHY?

I was 're diagnosed as the cause of my diabetes was my kidney transplant so they now have me on both types of meds
 
I suppose in theory if you take enough insulin, you could ingest vast quantities of carbs even 1000g/day. Interesting experiment in "management" though with all sorts of hair-triggers!:)
 
Nicksimmo said:
I was 're diagnosed as the cause of my diabetes was my kidney transplant so they now have me on both types of meds
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Thanks for clarifying. If you're now classified as T1.5 (or whatever), then you can change your profile to reflect that. It would certainly help those responding to you.
 
Nicksimmo said:
I was 're diagnosed as the cause of my diabetes was my kidney transplant so they now have me on both types of meds
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Type 1.5 is type 1. It's auto immune diabetes with a long honeymoon period. Nobody knows what causes autoimmune diabetes, ie nobody know what causes the immune system to start killing off beta cells.
If you have been able to definitively pinpoint the cause of your diabetes it is unlikely your diabetes is type 1.5, or you're in pretty good standing to get a noble prize because there is literally no single other person who has been able to do this.
If the kidney transplant caused your diabetes because the operation caused some unavoidable physical upset to your pancreas then that's type 3c diabetes. If the kidney transplant caused your diabetes because of medications you have to take then that's type 2 diabetes - steroid induced type 2 is not unheard of.

1g of carbs = 4 calories. Recommended calorie intake for men is 2500. Your screen grab at post 20 says the NHS recommends 50% of calories from carbs. 2500/2 = 1250 /4 = 312g of carb per day. As previously stated by @Mark_1 300g of carbs = 1200 calories, at 3 meals a day is 3600 calories, which is unlikely to be recommended for most people. Someone has got confused with the numbers or messed up per meal with per day or the hearing or delivery has been poor.
 
Last time I was in a hospital I was told I needed 300g of carbs per meal, but the conversation was with a vending machine not a doctor.
 
Oldvatr said:
Ex BHS, now defunct. But apparently still trading online. Based in London still. apparently has 3.3m customers registered this year. Website seems a bit flakey and not working properly.
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Actually, I think the reference to BHS is incorrect, I suspect it is more likely the BHF, i.e. the British Heart Foundation.

This is their cirrent website guidance
https://www.bhf.org.uk/heart-health/preventing-heart-disease/healthy-eating
It seems to be basic Eatwell#2

And this is what they say about Low Carb diets
https://www.bhf.org.uk/heart-matters-magazine/nutrition/special-diets/low-carbohydrate

I cannot see where they define a level numerically though.

Edit to add: I see that the bodybuilding fraternity refer to an RFL refeed diet of low protein and ultra high carb of 500-1000g carbs a day. The discussion seems to be blog sourced, and not an officiial recommendation
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=124536191
 
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Nicksimmo said:
I was 're diagnosed as the cause of my diabetes was my kidney transplant so they now have me on both types of meds
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But yet you say you are Type2, base on the above, I think you are more lickly to be Type3c. This make a VERY big difference to the advice most of us will give you on carbs.

Type2 is when your body ignores the inslin that is correctly (or over) produced, other types are when not enough insulin is produced. (In the later stages of Type2 insulin production can decrease to low levels.)
 
Nicksimmo said:
In any case im just gonna low carb there are some great recipes on the the YouTube post via yummy and tasty x
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I understand from other postings of yours that you are an insulin user. In that case an LC or VLC diet is not a necessity for you, and I think that your John Radcliffe team gave you some valid advice. Certainly I think the 300g carb./ meal is incorrect even with Insulin,

Going Low carb may allow you to reduce insulin dosage, but you should only do so in conjunction with guidance from your team. Especially when changing any basal insulin. If you reduce too quickly then you may add risk of hypo's happening, which should be avoided where possible.

I am not using insulin myself, so cannot advise in detail, so please check in with the care team again, and get a proper response for your condition before you change your diet too drastically.
 
ringi said:
But yet you say you are Type2, base on the above, I think you are more lickly to be Type3c. This make a VERY big difference to the advice most of us will give you on carbs.

Type2 is when your body ignores the inslin that is correctly (or over) produced, other types are when not enough insulin is produced. (In the later stages of Type2 insulin production can decrease to low levels.)
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Many on Basal/Bolus do need to control carbs to control weight gain and reduce BS swings and in turn hypo risk so I think the dietary advice often will be very similar but of course the insulin shots needs to be adjusted to match the carb intake
 
I think the difference is that I see “low carb” or at least “controlled carbs” being the ONLY sensible option for someone with Type2, as otherwise, their drug/insulin needs will keep increasing. This is due to high carb being responsible for increasing insulin resistance in people who already have a high level of insulin resistance.

For other types of diabetes, “low carb” can be a sensible option to reduce the risks of using insulin but is not required for good control.
 
Would agree with others that you may have misheard the doctor. I used to train weights and cardio twice a day 6 times a week and even then I would have struggled to get 300g of carbs a meal into my body! Seems excessive to me

Mike
 
morpheus123 said:
Would agree with others that you may have misheard the doctor. I used to train weights and cardio twice a day 6 times a week and even then I would have struggled to get 300g of carbs a meal into my body! Seems excessive to me

Mike
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There was a pill supplement called CARBO-XT that was marketed to provide 1000g in a pill. It is currently not available from the UK supplier, and there is no indication of supplies in the future. May still be available from offshore suppliers

Caveat emptor.
 
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