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15.9 reading. Very worried and have lots of questions.

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by Faar23, May 13, 2020.

  1. Faar23

    Faar23 · Member

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    I am definitely going to start using another oil that's the first step I think. Yes keto does scare us both but I have asked him to at least try some of the things to try to go...lower carb then now and he has agreed to it. So hopefully he will like some of the things and then we can switch over to it completely in the next few months.

    For now he wants to control his portion size. He is measuring the rice and stuff eats and really trying to reduce his portion size and calorie intake.

    Also I was telling him about this thread and how people said that he shouldn't have any fruits except for berries and he mentioned that a while back (before corona virus) he met with a diabetic nurse in a group and she said that you can eat any fruit so long as it fits in the palm of your hand??? But people here have said to completely avoid everything except berries. So...what is right?

    His attitude is that he really wants to lose weight and reduce carbs but is afraid of jumping into keto so we are going to gradually introduce keto dishes and see if he can eat them no problem while reducing portion size and lowering carb intake and eating salad.
     
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  2. Faar23

    Faar23 · Member

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    Yes I was telling him last night when it shot up that perhaps hsi medication needs to be changed but with the corona situation GP's are not seeing anyone unless emergency. Thankfully it has not shot up in the 20's. Last night was the max of 15.9
     
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    Faar23 · Member

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    Thanks for sharing, I will watch it tonight.
     
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    Faar23 · Member

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    But then he wouldn't lose any weight though.
     
  5. Hotpepper20000

    Hotpepper20000 · Well-Known Member

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    Low carb is not about portion control or calorie deficits.
    Low carb and low calorie in my opinion is not setting him up for success.
    As I continued with low carb and at time Keto I found that I ate less often but my calorie intake stayed about the same. The only time I’m hungry now is close to meal time. No snacking is needed. I have a very active job and am very active when I’m not working as well.
    I lost 60 pounds without going. hungry. Or going to the gym.
    Perhaps your husband could join the forum too and read the success thread.
     
  6. Faar23

    Faar23 · Member

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    Did you diabetes also come back?
     
  7. Faar23

    Faar23 · Member

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    Okay, so he can have the same amount of calories and still lose weight?
     
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    Hotpepper20000 · Well-Known Member

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    Yes
     
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  9. Geordie_P

    Geordie_P Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I think that sounds like a good plan. If you start reducing carbs, you will see improvements, and it will allow you to work out a practical diet for your needs. I always had a lot of bread for breakfast, but found that boiling eggs the night then putting them in the fridge let me have a quick, suitable breakfast I could eat before work As far as fruit goes, I would just say that it generally has a lot of fructose and glucose in it, so while a small amount might be ok, it probably isn't ideal. Remember the main rule- diabetics can't handle glucose: if it has glucose in it, or (like grains) will be broken down into glucose in the body, it's not really ideal.
     
  10. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    ....I wonder how I lost about 25 kilo's then....
     
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  11. Geordie_P

    Geordie_P Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Not in the same way: I originally had some eyesight issues and severe neuropathy caused by uncontrolled sugars and hyperlipidemia- I reversed all that and it didn't come back even when my weight did and my bloods rose. However, diabetes never really goes away, and if I eat a high starch meal, my blood sugar will usually go high. What you can do though, is keep to low starch meals, and keep your bloods at a good average, and you can consistently get non-diabetic readings.
     
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  12. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Expert

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    . No need to measure weigh etc if it is the right food. The problem is his body can’t process carbs properly. It can protein and fat. A calorie of carbs does him a lot of damage. A calorie of protein or fat doesn’t. So calories don’t need to be cut. Carbs do. Sadly you both need to forget the traditional idea of how to lose weight. It doesn’t work for type 2.

    She’s wrong. Her education was wrong. It has been shown more recently that fruit can both be high in carbs in terms of glucose that directly effects blood sugar levels and fructose which doesn’t show on the meter but that make the problem in the background (insulin resistance) worse.

    They are doing a lot of phone and online consultations so it’s not emergencies only.

    He will. I, and many others, lost weight whilst eating more food and more fats and more calories because our bodies can use and burn these fuels. The carbs fuel gets “stuck” and turns to body fat, triglycerides and high blood sugars whilst also leaving you hungry and tired.

    Great idea.

    There’s evidence of all I’ve said above so it’s not just my opinion. Let us know if that would help to show you.

    definitely go to the link in the first post I sent you that talks about success stories.

    edit. This one https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/success-stories-and-testimonials.43/
     
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    ziggy_w Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @Faar23,

    Keeping my fingers crossed that you'll find some dishes which will work for you and your husband.

    As to your question -- when I was first diagnosed, my GP put me on the maximum dosis of metformin, He also intimated that I would probably have to go on insulin with blood sugar levels as high as mine. After switching to low carb, blood sugars were normal after three months. After another three month and another HbA1c in the normal range, my GP halved the dosis of metformin and took me off this medication altogether after another six months.

    Today, I have been off all medication for four years and still keep seeing normal blood sugars while being on low carb/keto. Plus there have been a number of other benefits such as lower blood pressure, weight loss and better cholesterol numbers.

    Honestly, I don't think there is any reason to expect that your husband shouldn't be similarly successful if he changes his way of eating.
     
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    Daibell LADA · Master

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    Don't think Calories at all as they are irrelevant. Think Carbs and keeping them down. Have enough fats and proteins to keep you feeling full. The societal obsession with Calorie rather than Carb control is one of the causes of the high level of obesity. The body processes each food group in very different ways so measuring their calorie content is only relevant for energy output not input.
     
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    Mike d Type 2 · Expert

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    @Faar23 .... I believe I mentioned quite clearly the advice he needs (and you) is here, not with the likes of some ignorant nurse who thinks eating fruits is OK. Please bear that in mind. :)

    The HBA1C is a blood work that he's had done (at least twice) so get the records from the doctor. There are NO shortcuts around this condition.
     
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    No. It's not normally necessary to count calories on a low carb diet but because it is generally very satiating, people inadvertently reduce their calorie intake.
     
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    resander Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, good point about insulin resistance - had forgotten about that and snacking...

    I am having the Snacks to increase fat intake for keto and gain a bit of weight. Will reach target 71kg next week. Cream Coffee with 3 tbs (45ml) double cream has around 0.8g carb which is very low. I don't know to what extent it will affect insulin resistance.
     
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