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The harsh reality Alex .... there are a lot of experienced and caring people here with possibly the biggest source of experience and knowledge regarding diabetes you're going to find but ... there's always a but .... if you don't reply they'll not reply either after a while.
It's the internet ... it's a support forum and trolls and wind up merchants appear now and then.
You for real or you a wind up merchant?
Lot of people here fighting a lot of problems lot of people feeling vulnerable and frail too so I hope you're not a troll.
 
Bump .... just so's you know we haven't forgotten you.
 
Hello again.

I wish to thank you all for your replies and kind thoughts. I did not expect such a response as I've been ignored before, yes even by the Samaritans. I don't wish to experience what I experienced with them again.

In regards to those who may think I am a troll or falsehood, I take words and intent seriously, use my own words to respond, and ever recall Machaivelli’s The Discourses; ‘The fortress is most injurious to those who inhabit them.’ as ideologies and dogmas also are, when unquestioned even more dangerous, for their destructive madness is far more mobile.

Realised it was in a way absurd, that I quote Machaivelli while saying I use my own words… at least I say more born from being, than just regurgitate like customary parrots… the gist of my words, is and always has been driven by myself.

I am a very quiet person, harmless by nature, and very much alone.
If Intelligence is measured by how one speaks and conveys his ideas verbally than I am the anti-thesis of Intelligence for I stumble, stutter, and speak in an uneven pace. I no longer have friends now because I cannot attend their false gatherings where they wish to drink themselves to death and just need me to come along as an accomplice, knowing I'll be there to pick them up and put them into a taxi home, paying for it with my own money too. I cannot even have a drink myself to at least drown everything else out due to my Diabetes.

I applied for college weeks ago, only to find I do not have the appropriate entry requirements to be on the course. And here I thought education was freely available to all and that education is a right for all people? How stupid of me to think such a thing. Chances of employment are absolutely nill, and I only see myself as a detriment to society, a parasite to those who earn their own way in life. Others are far more deserving.

What is vexing is having some abilities yet being born in a time where they seem totally useless in this ‘wait and watch’ world, whereas in the past words created active revolutions instead of spectators, some endure this time with false bravado or anger, but such methods are tragically hollow to me. I wonder how any can adapt and not feel corrupt. I have only endured this long from an awareness that unforeseen events conspire to keep me alive; perhaps my being creates some value and casts a bit of light, but the torch only experiences its burning.

There will come a time when all quotes are over, read and comprehended. By then you would know that there is no need to understand. Understanding has limited applications. You will no longer be seeking wisdom. Then, you have begun to realize what silence really is.
 
Alex, their are lots of type 1's on this board, that have been through this, but at younger ages, when their was no internet, so to an extent we were all by ourselves and had no one to reach out to. I've been type1 for 33years, and had no one but family to reach out to. Preached to by Dr's etc, you have found and come to a community. Something some of us, never had when being diagnosed or in DKA. In my 20's I nearly died from DKA, through being stupid and I fully admit I was stupid and did not take care of myself. I had no one to reach out to. You have a lot of members waiting for you to reply. I have a wonderful husband who cares deeply for me and 2 children who are the world to me. But until a year ago or so I didn't have this community. We help when members are down and offer advice, when asked for. Lots of hands have been held out to you, don't ignore them. Grasp them with both hands and take the help offered, but keep a tight grasp on this Group.
 
My issue is not always my Diabetes. Upon first being diagnosed, as hard as I found it, I took it onboard, anything to stop the pain. I did take good control of it all, testing 4 or more times a day, adjusting my insulin to what I needed, getting into it completely, thinking (foolishly) that if I get this all sorted, I can move on to bigger and better things. That I could say to the college or my employer, that while I am Type 1, that won't stop me. However, it is my own stupidity, lack of applying myself and being mentally unfit to live in this world, that requires only the best, the survival of the fittest. What use am I if I do not have good qualifications? What work would I ever find?
 
Hello again.

I wish to thank you all for your replies and kind thoughts. I did not expect such a response as I've been ignored before, yes even by the Samaritans. I don't wish to experience what I experienced with them again.

In regards to those who may think I am a troll or falsehood, I take words and intent seriously, use my own words to respond, and ever recall Machaivelli’s The Discourses; ‘The fortress is most injurious to those who inhabit them.’ as ideologies and dogmas also are, when unquestioned even more dangerous, for their destructive madness is far more mobile.

Realised it was in a way absurd, that I quote Machaivelli while saying I use my own words… at least I say more born from being, than just regurgitate like customary parrots… the gist of my words, is and always has been driven by myself.

I am a very quiet person, harmless by nature, and very much alone.
If Intelligence is measured by how one speaks and conveys his ideas verbally than I am the anti-thesis of Intelligence for I stumble, stutter, and speak in an uneven pace. I no longer have friends now because I cannot attend their false gatherings where they wish to drink themselves to death and just need me to come along as an accomplice, knowing I'll be there to pick them up and put them into a taxi home, paying for it with my own money too. I cannot even have a drink myself to at least drown everything else out due to my Diabetes.

I applied for college weeks ago, only to find I do not have the appropriate entry requirements to be on the course. And here I thought education was freely available to all and that education is a right for all people? How stupid of me to think such a thing. Chances of employment are absolutely nill, and I only see myself as a detriment to society, a parasite to those who earn their own way in life. Others are far more deserving.

What is vexing is having some abilities yet being born in a time where they seem totally useless in this ‘wait and watch’ world, whereas in the past words created active revolutions instead of spectators, some endure this time with false bravado or anger, but such methods are tragically hollow to me. I wonder how any can adapt and not feel corrupt. I have only endured this long from an awareness that unforeseen events conspire to keep me alive; perhaps my being creates some value and casts a bit of light, but the torch only experiences its burning.

There will come a time when all quotes are over, read and comprehended. By then you would know that there is no need to understand. Understanding has limited applications. You will no longer be seeking wisdom. Then, you have begun to realize what silence really is.
I think you'll find it was only me who was questioning whether or not you were genuine.
 
Alex
You reached out to us, we reached back trying to help, to understand, you quote Machiavelli at us, you say you are a quiet and harmless yet you put us down for what we try to do to help. Fie I say, you know exactly what you are doing and revel in our discomfiture at the idea you may do away with yourself, I think you may take delight in making others squirm, fie I say and fie again

@jackthlad You were not alone
 
I'm sorry if I have caused offense, I'm not exactly in the best of mindset, been upset all day. I'm sorry, I just wanted to put out everything that I feel and have felt in the only way I knew how.
 
My issue is not always my Diabetes. Upon first being diagnosed, as hard as I found it, I took it onboard, anything to stop the pain. I did take good control of it all, testing 4 or more times a day, adjusting my insulin to what I needed, getting into it completely, thinking (foolishly) that if I get this all sorted, I can move on to bigger and better things. That I could say to the college or my employer, that while I am Type 1, that won't stop me. However, it is my own stupidity, lack of applying myself and being mentally unfit to live in this world, that requires only the best, the survival of the fittest. What use am I if I do not have good qualifications? What work would I ever find?


This world only requires the best?
I think you're badly mistaken.
The world is owned and run by fools to start with.
The media are corrupt.
Our teachers politicians police judiciary and priests have abused us.
We go to war based on lies and vote for even more of the same.
The wicked prosper while the down trodden have their homes and children blown to pieces and you think this world only requires the best?
Survival of the fittest is only a partial truth.
A person isn't capable of passing on his fitness so the next generation are what they are not what went before them.
So my world view is obviously very different from yours as I see that this world rewards fools more often than the gifted.
I also see that there's a place in it even for little old me ... maybe because I don't think it owes me anything?
 
Hi Alexander or Alex if preferred ?

You are clearly very super sharp , well read and hugely intelligent .
A deep thinker obviously and prone to overthink too much?
Maybe alone through shunning the destructive drinking buddies/friends
of the past .
But - think positive you ARE amongst friends here ...
we are all in same boat here with the diabetes condition many of us
HAVE felt as you do - do 'now' .

Hold this thought about silence please if you would .
I am very deaf - I certainly KNOW how silence is and feels...
Wisdom gives me a sense and purpose of understanding many things .
I seek it to learn so much more in my life .
Plus enjoy the thrill of learning new things too .
It enhances,enriches,challanges,stretches me to seek MORE of it !

Of course your being here is of value and has a something to share and offer others .
What college course did you wish/hope to do ?

Patience is a virtue to us all in this watch and wait world .
Tollerance of patience is the much harder thing to deal with .

Sometimes in life - doors remain firmly closed for a reason !
Seriously - when you are where you are meant to be - only
"then" the door will open .
Right time,moment and place kind of thing !
Then you will look back and think OH This is how and why
I couldnt get a job or college/university placement for ages .

With regards to your feelings with your diabetes , job employment
frustration etc .
Talk about it with us - ask any questions you wish to .
Do you talk about it to anyone at all or not?

If you browse through the forum , you will see many other sub forums
where you can get support, ideas,inspiration from lots of threads and posts .
MANY other members willing to support you with replies to any
questions you may have also .

Remember I am only a PM away too should you wish to PM me .
 
Alex, I work in a school as a dinner lady(old style name) I don't have a maths gcse, so can not progress to being a ta, unless I get this. Am I worthless. Lots of people are trying to help you, get out of this downward spiral that you are in and need to get out of. Am I worthless because I can't do maths, no. Take the hands that are offered here. If you were my son as a parent, I would be grateful to all those trying to help my son. Do your parents know how you feel, have you spoken to them??
 
Welcome back, Alex, it's good to see you posting a reply :)

For what it's worth, my belief is that a person's worth is determined by the kind of person they are, not by qualifications or job title. Someone can have qualifications coming out of their ears, and still be a total **** .(Funnily enough, certain politicians spring to mind!);)

Signy
 
I think I've caused more problems here than solutions. I am terribly sorry for offending all who have read my words, I didn't mean to cause harm or put anyone down, or cause suspicion. All I wanted was a conversation, someone to talk to, someone to understand and to know I'm not alone. Because I'm scared of what the future may or may not bring.
 
Welcome back, Alex, it's good to see you posting a reply :)

For what it's worth, my belief is that a person's worth is determined by the kind of person they are, not by qualifications or job title. Someone can have qualifications coming out of their ears, and still be a total **** .(Funnily enough, certain politicians spring to mind!);)

Signy
Yup ... plenty of highly educated morons about.
Also plenty of uneducated successful business people about too.
Don't make the mistake of thinking education equates to intelligence ... it rarely does.
 
Alex have, you left because your Avi, has gone?? We were all trying to help you.
 
I think I've caused more problems here than solutions. I am terribly sorry for offending all who have read my words, I didn't mean to cause harm or put anyone down, or cause suspicion. All I wanted was a conversation, someone to talk to, someone to understand and to know I'm not alone. Because I'm scared of what the future may or may not bring.
Good.
You've kicked us all off into talking about stuff we find interesting.
I find you interesting.
Doesn't mean I'm going to wipe your backside for you.
This place will love having you here and before you know it you'll be pointing the new guy in the right direction and possibly saving his sanity or even his life!
Welcome aboard mate.
 
You have nothing to apologise for.
 
Thank you, Jack. I didn't wish to come across as well....a bit of an ****. I think today it has all become too much for me and I just wanted to vent, but by doing so, didn't think. I quoted Machiavelli as he is one of my favourites, but by doing so, alienated my audience as a result. That wasn't clever of me and a sure way of how to not make friends.

I had a bad experience with the Samaritans in terms of support, which is why I don't do this often but thought I'd write up something just to show exactly how I feel. Even if I was stupid about it.
 
Yup ... plenty of highly educated morons about.
Also plenty of uneducated successful business people about too.
Don't make the mistake of thinking education equates to intelligence ... it rarely does.

Agreed.
It has been mentioned elsewhere that not all doctors graduate at the top of their class ;) It's been my working experience that this is correct ..Once upon a time, not so long ago, not everyone could afford to go to college or university , but it didn't mean that the majority of people that didn't were not intelligent, or those that were educated were bright.
(I hope that makes sense, too tired to think straight right now )

Signy
 
Thank you, Jack. I didn't wish to come across as well....a bit of an ****. I think today it has all become too much for me and I just wanted to vent, but by doing so, didn't think. I quoted Machiavelli as he is one of my favourites, but by doing so, alienated my audience as a result. That wasn't clever of me and a sure way of how to not make friends.

I had a bad experience with the Samaritans in terms of support, which is why I don't do this often but thought I'd write up something just to show exactly how I feel. Even if I was stupid about it.
We're all stupid at times ... I don't happen to think you were stupid just a wee bit arrogant.
it's not against the rules though.
Alex please stick around and get to know us and you might not just get to like us ... you might get to like you too.
If you stick around ... you'll get to see some of us make an **** of ourselves now and then ... me especially .... stick with us.
 
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