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I guess I just need to know how to make a soup with 1 cup of fresh vegetables. Our stores sell the rotting vegetables for 2.50 to 3 bucks. Regular price 5 bucks. So I might end up with 1 cup after rotting parts cut off.
What do I do with it?
I have a few spices and the buillion cubes.
Just throw it all in a pot with some water and cook it?
 
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A little good news? I managed to talk to a free dentist online. Very generous places!!! Maybe 2 as I think the 2nd response was a dental place.
Anyway they suggested I may have burning mouth syndrome. Nothing to do with the surgery.
There's not alot that can be done for it. But avoid triggers that make it worse. Such as avoiding hot foods, very cold foods and spice foods and mouthwash as the minty ones burn my mouth and gums.( I tried the alcohol free ones so it must be the mint).Those are my triggers. And to use salt water for rinsing.
And fruit and veggies smoothies and fill in the rest with nutrition drinks. So basically a liquid diet as I pretty much think I need.
Those are the suggestions combined from the 2 responses.
It's not for sure what I have but an awful lot fits.
It also answers y after nearly 3 years I don't seem to be healing.
 

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I guess I just need to know how to make a soup with 1 cup of fresh vegetables. Our stores sell the rotting vegetables for 2.50 to 3 bucks. Regular price 5 bucks. So I might end up with 1 cup after rotting parts cut off.
What do I do with it?
I have a few spices and the buillion cubes.
Just throw it all in a pot with some water and cook it?
Yes. Let us know what you think.
 

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I guess I just need to know how to make a soup with 1 cup of fresh vegetables. Our stores sell the rotting vegetables for 2.50 to 3 bucks. Regular price 5 bucks. So I might end up with 1 cup after rotting parts cut off.
What do I do with it?
I have a few spices and the buillion cubes.
Just throw it all in a pot with some water and cook it?
Yes, that's soup!

I know you eat cans of beans and pasta as well, you can easily add the cheapest dry pasta to make it more filling, or potatoes, or rice, even old bread.
A bag of dry pasta or fresh potatoes is likely much cheaper than the canned dishes you use, and they go a long way.
 

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If you liquidise your food I think it's going to end up as soup (personally I love soup though I appreciate your frustration that there is so much you can't eat). But you can liquidise most things so it does give you more food options as to what your base ingredients can be.
 

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I have to make all my own meals from scratch as I have coeliac, that includes soups. To be honest @cdpm my home made soups are much better than any soup you buy in a can. I find store bought soup overly salty and full of additives. I also buy the ‘rotting’ veggies from Loblaws supermarket, most of which is perfectly good. I use them in my soups, what I don’t use I blanch and put it in the freezer. A friend of mine doesn’t freeze hers but cans them. There are loads of online recipes for soups.
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@cdpm, your posts are seeming more positive lately. I am glad you have had advice from dentist. Also that you are finding ways to make soup on your small food budget. I wonder if you could consider using bone broth as a base for your soups? Not sure if you have decent butchers where you live? Here I often get a bag of marrow bones or chicken caracases from the butcher. They are generally glad to give them away free or for nominal cost. I make bone broth that is very nutritious, for next to nothing, just adding a few veg and seasoning. This is very useful when I am not well enough to eat properly. At other times I use it and add lentils, which are also very cheap, and a source of protein.
There are numerous recipes online.Here is just one of them. Hope this is of use.
 
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Many great ideas here.
I'm just not seeing any protein in this.
Which brings me full circle back to square one.
But when I get to shop in a few weeks I will check the vege reduced rack.
No one I know has meats to make bone broth from but if I get to go to the store that might have a butcher I can ask for a free pk.
 
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Many great ideas here.
I'm just not seeing any protein in this.
Which brings me full circle back to square one.
But when I get to shop in a few weeks I will check the vege reduced rack.
No one I know has meats to make bone broth from but if I get to go to the store that might have a butcher I can ask for a free pk.
Independent butchers always have bones, there will be bits of meat left on the bones that will add you some protein. A cooked chicken stripped of the meat and the bones made into broth then add the stripped meat back when you make the soup, this will give you with any added veg (or not) at least 4 - 6 good portions of soup. Ham hocks make great stock for soups or even bacon bits.

The trick to a really good nutritional stock is cook long & slow, the longer the better
 

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Independent butchers always have bones, there will be bits of meat left on the bones that will add you some protein. A cooked chicken stripped of the meat and the bones made into broth then add the stripped meat back when you make the soup, this will give you with any added veg (or not) at least 4 - 6 good portions of soup. Ham hocks make great stock for soups or even bacon bits.

The trick to a really good nutritional stock is cook long & slow, the longer the better
In addition to the meat on the bones, the breakdown of the collegen content of the bones produces nutient rich gelatin, which can help improve lots of aspects of health.
 
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The only thing that will really help is more funds but the only thing I can cut from my budget is my 25 dollar phone plan. Then there goes my dr calls the endo that I have appts with.
So I'm not hopeful for much improvement in any of my circumstances.
 

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I really urge you to try the butchers in your area, many will give bones for free or for a very low price, you won’t know unless you ask them, and don’t be disheartened if the first one says no, others may be glad to give them to you
 

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The only thing that will really help is more funds but the only thing I can cut from my budget is my 25 dollar phone plan. Then there goes my dr calls the endo that I have appts with.
So I'm not hopeful for much improvement in any of my circumstances.
Even if you can add lentils to your veg soups you would be having a more nutritous soup than just vegetables. Lentils are cheap and, as long as you can adjust your insulin for the carb content, a good alternative source of protein.


I believe they are plentiful and easily obtained in Canada. So how about giving them a try, along with the vegetables, and acquiring some free or cheap bones to make broth, as suggested. Then comeback to tell us how you got on?
 
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Even if you can add lentils to your veg soups you would be having a more nutritous soup than just vegetables. Lentils are cheap and, as long as you can adjust your insulin for the carb content, a good alternative source of protein.


I believe they are plentiful and easily obtained in Canada. So how about giving them a try, along with the vegetables, and acquiring some free or cheap bones to make broth, as suggested. Then comeback to tell us how you got on?
My premix isn't adjustable for carbs. It's 2 injections a day. One before breakfast and 14 before supper. If it's adjusted to handle more carbs the basal is adjusted being that's it's premixed. I can increase the dose tho. But not like the basal bolus routine.
I'm OK with this though. I found that the constant figuring and adjusting the rapid insulin too stressful. It has to get adjusted so often when what I can buy is so hit and miss and different.
This insulin is so much easier. No figuring every day. Everytime I eat. The only drawback is not always being able to take both injections without food for 2 meals. But that's OK. I can t change that so I live with it.
 

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A little good news? I managed to talk to a free dentist online. Very generous places!!! Maybe 2 as I think the 2nd response was a dental place.
Anyway they suggested I may have burning mouth syndrome. Nothing to do with the surgery.
There's not alot that can be done for it. But avoid triggers that make it worse. Such as avoiding hot foods, very cold foods and spice foods and mouthwash as the minty ones burn my mouth and gums.( I tried the alcohol free ones so it must be the mint).Those are my triggers. And to use salt water for rinsing.
And fruit and veggies smoothies and fill in the rest with nutrition drinks. So basically a liquid diet as I pretty much think I need.
Those are the suggestions combined from the 2 responses.
It's not for sure what I have but an awful lot fits.
It also answers y after nearly 3 years I don't seem to be healing.
Have you had your vitamin B12 levels checked? A deficiency in B12 can cause burning mouth syndrome. Mine went away after my doctor gave me a B12 injection.
 
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Have you had your vitamin B12 levels checked? A deficiency in B12 can cause burning mouth syndrome. Mine went away after my doctor gave me a B12 injection.
I'm not sure if this dr is testing for b12 or not. But when I do get it tested I always fail them and have had one of the Dr's I used to have say to take b12 supplements. So I get them when I can. Many time vitamins do come on sale cheap. Currently I take a Jamieson brand b12 that melts. Of a 1000mcg dose. But only 2 or 3 times a week. I wasn't sure how many to take as our requirements are much less than that. Plus there's some in my multiple vitamin I take daily.
 

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I'm not sure if this dr is testing for b12 or not. But when I do get it tested I always fail them and have had one of the Dr's I used to have say to take b12 supplements. So I get them when I can. Many time vitamins do come on sale cheap. Currently I take a Jamieson brand b12 that melts. Of a 1000mcg dose. But only 2 or 3 times a week. I wasn't sure how many to take as our requirements are much less than that. Plus there's some in my multiple vitamin I take daily.
Yes, it's hard to know how much to take when you have to judge for yourself. I'm hoping my GP will test my levels in January so I know whether to take more or not.
 

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If your vitamin B12 levels get really low some people need injections .... (When my son was vegan he had to do this - it's the main reason he stopped being vegan as he wasn't disciplined enough to take b12 tablets consistently.)
 
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Been now waiting for 40 plus years for my life and my health to get better. If it's not by now it's not going to.
Just to need to eat once every day maybe do my bike once every day around the pain, just to keep alive. I do not have a death wish. I'm still waiting for things to somehow get better. But I've been waiting a Long time.
 
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I think I just won't eat the sad meals. If I can't eat something better for my health conditions I'd rather not eat.
The meals make me sad.