Since I changed from seed oils to non seed oils and fats my HDL has increased, even though I am probably eating more fats.Last year I had two heart attacks and bypass surgery. My consultant discussed diet, and I told him I was low carb + higher fat (LCHF) and he agreed that I should carry on with it. He did suggest a modification to it as laid out by the Heart Surgeon Dr Aseem Malhotrsa to use the Mediterranean flavoured variant of it. this does not mean pasta but does use Olive Oil and loads of fish. So that is what I am doing. My GP and diabetic HCP both agree that it is suitable for me but advise thin sheets of butter , not slabs or doorstops. I did not do fatbombs anyway, nor do I do bulletproof coffees. I do still eat red meat. My bgl is in the sweet range and I am still able to provide care 24/7 for my partner who is chairbound.
So the low fat mantra is beginning to shift out of the consultancy door. My GP notes my LDL-C is high, but my HDL is higher and the ratio is good. He is happy, and I am no longer being persuaded to take statins even though I am one who has has a CVE
Does anyone have any suggestions for maintaining a low carb lifestyle, while cutting down on meat? Lots of veggie substitutes seem somewhat carby to me....What was that we were saying about choice? Looks like we’re edging one step closer to the removal of it.
People should cut the amount of beef, lamb and dairy produce they eat by a fifth to combat climate change, a report says. It says public bodies should lead the way by offering plant-based options with all meals. But it says if people don’t cut consumption willingly, taxes on meat and dairy might be needed. The report comes from the government’s official advisers, the Committee on Climate Change (CCC).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51210622
Can you eat nuts? Or soya/tofu? Are you wanting to cut down on dairy too?Does anyone have any suggestions for maintaining a low carb lifestyle, while cutting down on meat? Lots of veggie substitutes seem somewhat carby to me....
Hopefully it will be changed before it becomes mandated, but at present this is what the Global Diet to Save the World is postulating we are limited to, and the Climate Change Comittee in parliament has accepted this as their go forward recommendation for Eatwell to change toEggs- I know they are not meat, but has anything been said about chicken production and egg availability, given how much soya they eat?
This is what the Eat Lancet people are suggesting for the diet to save the planetDoes anyone have any suggestions for maintaining a low carb lifestyle, while cutting down on meat? Lots of veggie substitutes seem somewhat carby to me....
Last year I had two heart attacks and bypass surgery. My consultant discussed diet, and I told him I was low carb + higher fat (LCHF) and he agreed that I should carry on with it. He did suggest a modification to it as laid out by the Heart Surgeon Dr Aseem Malhotrsa to use the Mediterranean flavoured variant of it. this does not mean pasta but does use Olive Oil and loads of fish. So that is what I am doing. My GP and diabetic HCP both agree that it is suitable for me but advise thin sheets of butter , not slabs or doorstops. I did not do fatbombs anyway, nor do I do bulletproof coffees. I do still eat red meat. My bgl is in the sweet range and I am still able to provide care 24/7 for my partner who is chairbound.
So the low fat mantra is beginning to shift out of the consultancy door. My GP notes my LDL-C is high, but my HDL is higher and the ratio is good. He is happy, and I am no longer being persuaded to take statins even though I am one who has has a CVE
The biggest source of atmospheric methane is rotting plants All hydrocarbons oxidise to either CO2 (aerobic) or Methane (Anaerobic), not just grass. the important thing is that humans cannot eat grass, shrubs or trees.In the US, a vegan substitute for ground beef is already being sold, with a vegan source of heme used to make it taste like beef, and protein from vegetable sources.
It's around twice the cost of the meat it replaces, though, so I'm not going to try it soon.
No word on how much carbon dioxide is produced by this production, and therefore whether it makes climate change better or worse.
The same company is working on developing vegan substitutes for other meats.
Not much work seems to be ready on duplicating the texture of meats that aren't ground.
Also, I've seen some articles on making cattle produce less methane by adding a certain type of seaweed to their diets.
It seems worthwhile to check if one of the two major methods of feeding cattle in the US produces less methane than the other. One is feeding them mostly grass, and the other is feeding them mostly grain. I haven't found any announcements of anyone even doing such research, or any results.
Here is the US, a major source of methane of leaks is from natural gas lines, and also the initial waste from the fracking method of producing more natural gas. Many oil refineries vent off their lighter hydrocarbons, including methane. If they burn these hydrocarbons as the vent them, it produces carbon dioxide; if they don't burn them, they include methane.
Cattle, rabbits, and termites are among the few animals that use cellulose (found in grass and in wood) as a significant part of their diets. All do it by maintaining colonies of bacteria that produce enzymes that can split the bonds in cellulose; no animals produce these enzymes without using bacteria. Research seems worthwhile on which animals of this type produce more or less methane.
What is the carbon footprint of an electric car nowadays. I note this subject is never discussed in the press or media.
I assume that an oxcart is no longer a planet friendly option. Pony and trap may still be avsilable for a while until the poachers get busy. Maybe consider a husky drawn sled. After all it is only the diet we are being asked to take up. The rest should be up to our consciences.This is going to be the next 'revelation' in a decade or so. Now is the time to buy and enjoy an EV if you want one. Get in there before they're demonised/taxed/banned along with everything else that humans once thought was a great idea...like razing the planet to grow more soy etcetera
I know the thread title is meat, but hopefully dairy and eggs are included in this subject.
Has the usual Grauniad bias on farting cows munching all the rainforest soya , whereas farmers will tell you soy is toxic and would kill them. Soya's only contribution to the debate is via poultry and possibly pigs.I saw the guardian news about cow milk v plant milks
Almonds are out. Dairy is a disaster. So what milk should we drink?
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...es-aoe?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
However, I have not found a comparison chart of the nutritional content of each type of milk.
All the plant milks seem to have added supplements of vitamins, and some have added thickeners too. Surely the additions have to come from somewhere?
I know the thread title is meat, but hopefully dairy and eggs are included in this subject.
Has the usual Grauniad bias on farting cows munching all the rainforest soya , whereas farmers will tell you soy is toxic and would kill them. Soya's only contribution to the debate is via poultry and possibly pigs.
The USA is the largest importer of Amazon Soya, for their poultry farming.
I like the footnote at the end of their article which starts
>>>>>
Climate misinformation is rife…
… and never more dangerous than now, as the crisis escalates across the world. The Guardian’s accurate, authoritative journalism has never been more critical – and we will not stay quiet.<<<<
So untrue, such a sham. T
They can have small amounts of soya bean, less than 15% of the total daily feed. It's not ideal though. 6 % is really the maximum for heathy rumination.https://wilkes.ces.ncsu.edu/2016/03/concerns-about-feeding-soybeans-to-cattle/ This article seems to be saying that soy is fine for cows unless they are also receiving a supplement containing urea:-
'Whole, raw soybeans make an excellent feed for beef cows as they have a high level of Crude Protein (40%) and Fat (20%).'
'Raw soybeans contain urease, which rapidly breaks down urea into ammonia. Do not feed raw soybeans to cattle that are receiving a supplement or feed containing non-protein Nitrogen (Urea) as this could lead to ammonia toxicity and death.'
https://sustainablefoodtrust.org/articles/dairy-cows-livestock-behind-growth-soya-south-america/https://wilkes.ces.ncsu.edu/2016/03/concerns-about-feeding-soybeans-to-cattle/ This article seems to be saying that soy is fine for cows unless they are also receiving a supplement containing urea:-
'Whole, raw soybeans make an excellent feed for beef cows as they have a high level of Crude Protein (40%) and Fat (20%).'
'Raw soybeans contain urease, which rapidly breaks down urea into ammonia. Do not feed raw soybeans to cattle that are receiving a supplement or feed containing non-protein Nitrogen (Urea) as this could lead to ammonia toxicity and death.'
Indeed the economic aspect you mention here is a prime mover since although feeding cattle soy may not be lethal till higher amounts are given, there is a dramatic loss of productivity at the levels you quote. No farmer wanting to maximise yield and profit is going to give soya without taking care for his animals. Most farmers in the industry actually care about their animals which is not what we are led to believe by the media reports today. Yes there are cowboys in any industry, and we need to make better efforts to curtail their activities.They can have small amounts of soya bean, less than 15% of the total daily feed. It's not ideal though. 6 % is really the maximum for heathy rumination.
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