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Bacon and recovery from diabetes 2 ?

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by Freema, Sep 10, 2016.

  1. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps it can be cured through a change in diet (but this will not work for everyone). However, if you do cure your diabetes through a change in diet, then it is quite likely that you can't go back to what you ate before. Some will say that this means you're not actually cured. To me it's an academic question. My blood glucose levels are normal with the way I now eat. If I went to doctor that I'd never seen before, they'd never diagnose me as diabetic. They'd likely not even ask what I ate, but just look at my blood test results and declare me non-diabetic.
     
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  2. Freema

    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    yes guess you are right in those arguments
     
  3. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    Well there is your mistake the idea that people who eat large amounts of carbohydrates can be thought of as healthy I don't believe that to be true. They may not be diabetic but that does not mean they are healthy.
     
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  4. Freema

    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    a lot of persons in here have managed to get a very very low blood glucose even lower than the "normal" healthy blood glucose of about 4-4,5 mmol .... can´t it at all be unhealthy to have a constant low blood glucose of lower than 4 mmol ?
     
  5. Freema

    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    large amount of carbs what is that 200 grams of carbs a day or 400 grams or 600 grams ?
     
  6. Salvia

    Salvia Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    The report says:
    "There is now widespread evidence that red meat drastically increases the likelihood of major health problems including heart disease, strokes and some types of cancer."

    but they don't give any info about what this 'widespread evidence' consists of, or where it can be found. (at least, I didn't notice any reference in the report). Sorry, I can't take seriously anything that doesn't give me facts that I can check out for myself - I wasn't on the scene in 2011 so didn't see it then).
     
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  7. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I doubt there are too many former type 2 diabetics walking around with a BG constantly under 4 mmol/L. However, unless a person is experiencing hypoglycemic symptoms, it shouldn't be a problem.
     
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  8. Freema

    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    in this comunity in here there are quite a lot with a very low blood glucose and a Hb1Ac lower than 3.8
     
  9. Daks

    Daks Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Personally I don't believe in 'curing' type 2 diabetes, I do however know you can 'shelf it' and have a HBA1C that of a non diabetic, for me type2 doesn't have to be a progressive disease, that's as good as a cure.
     
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  10. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe that's true. 3.8% would be ridiculously low.
     
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  11. Freema

    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    have you read peoples numbers the are so many in here with that very low numbers
     
  12. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    No, I haven't seen anyone with an HbA1c less than 3.8%, which would be less than 18 mmol/mol, on the forum.
     
  13. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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  14. Freema

    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    maybe I have been reading the numbers wrongly.. and the number is really 37 or 38 mg/dL sorry for me mistaking so much
     
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  15. I have honestly never seen anyone that low on the forum.

    I am confused as to why you are using DCCT % when you are in Denmark and are recently diagnosed. Do they not use IFCC measurements there?
     
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  16. Freema

    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    sorry I have been reading the numbers wrongly
     
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  17. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    That's ok. It takes a while to get the hang of the different units and measurements.
     
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  18. Freema

    Freema Type 2 · Expert

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    yes that is interesting ... :) how is it in the long run is it still as healthy... seems people Loose weight the fastest when lchf-dieting but after one year those on lclf-diet has lost about the same amount of weight if the 2 Groups eat the same amount of calories..
     
  19. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    Well yes.

    Personally on a LCHF diet I have lost almost 7 stones in weight and reduced HbA1c to lower than pre-diabetes level also cholesterol levels are fine..

    My cardio-vascular consultant is quite happy about that
     
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