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Type-2-Havent-A-Clue

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Just seen Tesco beans 11.6g of sugar per half tin..

Tesco “reduced sugar beans” 2.9g of sugar per half tin..

Are these beans labelled reduced sugar ok as I want to put it with bacon and eggs?
 
Jim Lahey said:
Ha. I wouldn’t worry about that. Completely normal to receive bad or no advice from a doctor regarding diabetes. That’s why people come to places like this to get better :)
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I don’t want the earth from them. Just a simple straightforward do’s and donts would be great! What I can and can’t eat. What to look out for in my foods such as the recommended levels of carbs, sugars etc.
 
Type-2-Havent-A-Clue said:
I don’t want the earth from them. Just a simple straightforward do’s and donts would be great! What I can and can’t eat. What to look out for in my foods such as the recommended levels of carbs, sugars etc.
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I have had the same issue. Last I got was “ if you can’t hunt it, fish it or pick it “ then don’t eat it. :D

I asked to get access to a dietician but they refused as I wasn’t heavy enough.
 
Probably quite high carb then my heinz ones have 9.7 g of carb per 100g of which 1.8g is sugar.
Important bit is always checking the carbs per 100g and or portion as this will put it up or down. 100g of beans isn’t a lot.. when my OH has them I have a teaspoon for taste but would be nervous about having too many but I stick to a keto way of eating usually sticking below 20g of carb a day and never go above 30g it works for me.
Mushrooms cooked in butter are good or a half a tomato and go with any version of eggs, bacon, high percentage meat sausage etc.
For ideas re low carb have you checked the visual charts on diet doctor?
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/visual-guides
Of course it also depends on:
How low carb you’re aiming for
Your individual reaction to some foods as tested on your meter
Hope this helps it’s a big learning curve but there are lots of resources out there
 
Listlad said:
I have had the same issue. Last I got was “ if you can’t hunt it, fish it or pick it “ then don’t eat it. :D
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That’s actually great advice. I try to live by the rule “If you wouldn’t be able to kill it, find it, or make it, don’t eat it”. Almost impossible to fully adhere to in the modern world but you won’t go far wrong if you try.
 
Listlad said:
I have had the same issue. Last I got was “ if you can’t hunt it, fish it or pick it “ then don’t eat it. :D

I asked to get access to a dietician but they refused as I wasn’t heavy enough.
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That could be beneficial as the majority of dieticians would direct you to the Eatwell Guide that they use to try and kill us.. bullet possibly dodged.
 
Here are the numbers you need to look at circled in pic. As you can see lowering the sugar content doesn’t make that much difference to the carb content, as the beans themselves are high carb. This is the number you should always look at. Ignore ‘sugars’.

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Type-2-Havent-A-Clue said:
You can see now in the approximate 2 and a bit years I’ve been a T2 how much information I’ve been given by GP’s and specialists.
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I had several specialists, dieticians, two nurses and my GP... And I had to get this knowledge from a book. So you're not alone there. But practically all carbs turn to sugar. They just put "of which sugars" on the label so you know thereare refined sugars put in... But it really doesn't matter, as starches turn to glucose too. So basically... It's a rather useless addition.

Rather have eggs, bacon, tomato, sausages, cheese, maybe some ham, low carb black pudding, mushrooms, whatever to go with it, and you won't miss the beans all that much.
 
Also worth noting that although it may seem a preposterous notion, quite often sugar can raise blood glucose less than starches. This is because only half of it is glucose, the other half is fructose and won’t usually contribute measurably to blood glucose. It does have other seriously deleterious effects for a diabetic, but there’s no need to confuse things for the purposes of this discussion.

Essentially, all carbohydrate is glucose.
 
It’s a funny thing but years ago I remember my other half at that time talking about Heinz baked beans and various supermarket own brands. I remember she said many mothers said they and their kids had to have Heinz and couldn’t eat anything else. I have come to the conclusion it was the sugar that they added that lead to their popularity. They did have a sweeter taste I seem to recall.
 
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Jim Lahey said:
Also worth noting that although it may seem a preposterous notion, quite often sugar can raise blood glucose less than starches. This is because only half of it is glucose, the other half is fructose and won’t usually contribute measurably to blood glucose. It does have other seriously deleterious effects for a diabetic, but there’s no need to confuse things for the purposes of this discussion.

Essentially, all carbohydrate is glucose.
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Yes but and it's a huge BUT. Every single cell in the body can metabolise glucose. The liver alone can metabolise fructose. That's why fructose is uniquely toxic especially in diabetes or pre_ diabetes. It's pretty much guaranteed to give you fatty liver and the metabolic syndrome. Go easy on the fruit and avoid all fruit smoothies like the plague
 
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