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Body racked with pain is this the Diabetes?

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by Yetiandy, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. Yetiandy

    Yetiandy Type 2 · Member

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    Or is it something else?
    For the last 3 months my whole body has been racked with pain this has also been a period of high blood sugars, 26 fasting!!
    I have been to doctors and all they did was give me painkillers, which never worked, I also suffer with Major Depression Disorder with Psychosis and the drugs I take are;
    Metformin 2 x 500mg 2 x per day
    Gliclazide 4 x 30mg modified release at breakfast
    Simvasatatin 1 x 40mg at night

    Non Diabetes drugs;
    Quetiapine 2 x 25mg 3 x a day
    Trazodone 2 x 150mg at night

    Any ideas people?
     
  2. urbanracer

    urbanracer Type 1 · Moderator
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    Hi @Yetiandy ,

    A couple of points, high blood sugars affect your moods so could be making your depression worse. Having blood sugars that high is not sustainable and I'm not surprised that you are having problems.

    You really need to get your BG numbers down. The only advice I can offer over the web is go back to the quack and don't take any nonsense from him/her - get an urgent referral to an Endocrinologist at your local hospital, or find another doctor.
     
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  3. Enclave

    Enclave Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member
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    I agree with urbanracer, go back to your Drs and ask them listen, if you feel very unwell then phone the NHS help line and get their advice ..
     
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  4. seadragon

    seadragon Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Have you checked the pain is not a side effect of the Simvastatin (which is not a debates medication although you appear to have classed it as such above). How long have you been taking all the different drugs - is any one of them more recent? You might also want to check with a pharmacist in case there are any adverse reactions between any of the drugs you take (pharmacists are usually more knowledgeable than doctors about interactions of medicines).

    Your blood sugar does sound very high and I'd definitely be going back to doctors for advice and if they won't help you then you need to be referred to someone who can help.
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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    I agree with the others. You need to get your blood sugars down, that is for sure, but your pains are more likely related to your drugs, or something else entirely. Do ask at the pharmacy, and do check the leaflets in the packets for side effects. I don't know about the other drugs, but simvastatin (for raised cholesterol, not diabetes) can cause extreme muscle pains - which doesn't always materialise for some time.
     
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    mfactor Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You have to get those bloods down , I felt terrible when mine were only in the high teens , not so much pain as just feeling awful, but there was some joint pain and neuropathy ........

    Get to the docs , if he wont help then get another........

    Whats your diet , drastically changing mine got me from 18/19s to 5/6s in about 6 weeks...


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    IanD Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I agree with all that has gone before - and would strongly recommend you see another doctor.

    BG readings of 26 are dangerously high - you should get urgent professional advice, Try 111 - you may be referred to hospital A&E.

    I've had bad pain from simvastatin & cannot take it. The pain went withing a few days of stopping it - & that was only 10 mg daily. It's a well known side effect.

    Also I was diagnosed with leg discomfort, identified as peripheral neuropathy, which became crippling while I was on the diabetes UK 50% carb diet. Cutting the carbs improved my control & relieved the pain completely.

    You are unlikely to suffer any adverse effects within a few weeks from stopping simvastatin, or from cutting out carbs. You should however feel the benefit of such changes, if simv & carbs are contributing to the problem.
     
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    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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    @Yetiandy

    Hello Andy and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members, as tagged above, and I hope this will help you to get your levels down. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

    LOW CARB PROGRAM:
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
     
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