Bran Oatmeal with Carbs and Bread Substitute Advice

[Resurgam]

I make bread, using my original white bread recipe I add in as many low carb and fibre options as possible - so much that I add in some baking powder to help it rise, the recipe is in my blog.
However - I have to make little rolls in muffin tins and then freeze them, otherwise I'd eat too much.
I am no longer seeing diabetic test results, but I am back to the state I was in my 40s, weight gain is easy and weight loss really difficult.
I am just about maintaining, though I am becoming stronger and losing volume.
A diagnosis I wore XXL and now I can wear M.

 

[ziggy_w]

Thanks, @Rachox, for tagging me.

Hi @Klpville,

They do still have the protein rolls at Lidl stores here in Germany. They go by the name of "Eiweißbrötchen" and are triangular in shape as @bulkbiker mentions. They are about 10g of carbs per 100g, so one of the lowest carb choices of bread available. When I had them, I hardly saw my blood sugars move at all. They are also pretty large, so half a roll should probably fill you up.

 

[britishpub]

Does that mean that any healthy diets do not include any oatmeal and bread at all?

Absolutely not.

But for those with T2D who are insulin resistant and following a low carb diet approach, they are not really appropriate.

 

[Klpville]

They do still have the protein rolls at Lidl stores here in Germany. They go by the name of "Eiweißbrötchen" and are triangular in shape as @bulkbiker mentions. They are about 10g of carbs per 100g, so one of the lowest carb choices of bread available. When I had them, I hardly saw my blood sugars move at all. They are also pretty large, so half a roll should probably fill you up.

Hi @ziggy_w,

Danke schön! I really do appreciate your help! I would write in German but I'd like all the others to understand it too Right, that's exactly what it is, "Eiweißbrötchen" means "protein bread" in English. It's that simple. Love it here in Hamburg, real nice place Lots of opportunities to practice my German as well.

 

[Klpville]

Absolutely not.

But for those with T2D who are insulin resistant and following a low carb diet approach, they are not really appropriate.

Thank you for clarifying, @britishpub. Appreciate. That's exactly what I thought as well but was getting kinda lost in all these diets.

 

[ziggy_w]

Hi @ziggy_w,

Danke schön! I really do appreciate your help! I would write in German but I'd like all the others to understand it too Right, that's exactly what it is "Eiweißbrötchen" means "protein bread" in English. It's that simple. Love it here in Hamburg, real nice place Lots of opportunities to practice my German as well.

Hi @Klpville,

Hey, very cool that you are in Hamburg. I grew up in the North of Germany, even further up north then you are right now. Hamburg definitely is a very charming city. I'm located in Wuppertal and commute to Cologne for work.

If you have questions as to where to get some of the low-carb/keto foods/ingredients, I am more than happy to help.

 

[Klpville]

I make bread, using my original white bread recipe I add in as many low carb and fibre options as possible - so much that I add in some baking powder to help it rise, the recipe is in my blog.
However - I have to make little rolls in muffin tins and then freeze them, otherwise I'd eat too much.
I am no longer seeing diabetic test results, but I am back to the state I was in my 40s, weight gain is easy and weight loss really difficult.
I am just about maintaining, though I am becoming stronger and losing volume.
A diagnosis I wore XXL and now I can wear M.

Right. I think that's a good option to bake your own bread. I would say the only option since I am not going to live in Germany forever where the low carb bread is for sale in Lidl. Then again, I used to work as a baker so I might as well have to roll up my sleeves and do it myself. It's going to be easier and faster then to look for low carb bread infinitely. Plus I think they just do not bake it any more (for some reasons?).
Shelves in stores and shops are literally jammed with all sorts of food for vegetarians / vegans and people who do not eat gluten, but there is basically nothing for diabetics and low carb eaters... I still cannot seem to find it.. shall I say yet?

 

[Klpville]

I was in the Prediabetic range but have dropped out of it. I managed that by reducing carbs and increasing fats. I did and do take a couple of small slices of Burgen bread or the Hovis Low Carb bread, not every day but every other day. The diet worked for me and got me down to a rather nice HbA1c figure of 36 which I struggled to achieve previously.

In my case I didn’t have to go full on keto to get results but others might need to.

I still eat one little slice of bread per day (13 carbs) and one apple per day (12 carbs). That's roughly about all the carbs I get per day. I hope my apple a day will keep the BG away

 

[Klpville]

Hi @Klpville,

Hey, very cool that you are in Hamburg. I grew up in the North of Germany, even further up north then you are right now. Hamburg definitely is a very charming city. I'm located in Wuppertal and commute to Cologne for work.

If you have questions as to where to get some of the low-carb/keto foods/ingredients, I am more than happy to help.

Thank you so much ziggy_w. That is so very kind of you.

 

[Listlad]

I still eat one little slice of bread per day (13 carbs) and one apple per day (12 carbs). That's roughly about all the carbs I get per day. I hope my apple a day will keep the BG away

Careful. Careless talk costs lives.

Yes, me too.

 

[Pinkorchid]

Shelves in stores and shops are literally jammed with all sorts of food for vegetarians / vegans and people who do not eat gluten, but there is basically nothing for diabetics and low carb eaters..

The normal low carb foods we all eat like meat, fish, cheese, eggs, yogurt, cream, butter, green vegetables, mushrooms, avocados, berries and nuts I take it are all available in Germany and I read somewhere that they do about 80 different varieties of sausages so some of those I am sure would be low carb. Are there any other specific low carb foods you would like to see on a low carb shelf if shops had them

 

[Klpville]

The normal low carb foods we all eat like meat, fish, cheese, eggs, yogurt, cream, butter, green vegetables, mushrooms, avocados, berries and nuts I take it are all available in Germany and I read somewhere that they do about 80 different varieties of sausages so some of those I am sure would be low carb. Are there any other specific low carb foods you would like to see on a low carb shelf if shops had them

For example your "80 different varieties of sausages" are not sorted out. You have to grab each pack, turn it over, and read through the labels for ingredients. The same applies for yogurt. I'd say 90% of all types and brands of yogurts normally have tons of sugar added. You have to grab them one by one again, either put your glasses on or bring over a magnifying glass as usually it's all in small print so to speak. Now your shopping experience turns into endless hours of reading through many thousands of labels of all sorts of stuff... If the store / shop / mall is huge you are facing about "800 varieties of yogurt" and you cannot just buy any you wish, you have to grab every single one out of 800 and read their labels first in order to find out whether it has carbs and sugars or not... unless you have an X-Ray system built-in your eyes that allows you to scan it for carbs and sugar just by looking at cans and bottles...

 

[Mr_Pot]

For example your "80 different varieties of sausages" are not sorted out. You have to grab each pack, turn it over, and read through the labels for ingredients. The same applies for yogurt. I'd say 90% of all types and brands of yogurts normally have tons of sugar added. You have to grab them one by one again, either put your glasses on or bring over a magnifying glass as usually it's all in small print so to speak. Now your shopping experience turns into endless hours of reading through many thousands of labels of all sorts of stuff... If the store / shop / mall is huge you are facing about "800 varieties of yogurt" and you cannot just buy any you wish, you have to grab every single one out of 800 and read their labels first in order to find out whether it has carbs and sugars or not...

You do like to make things difficult. Look for Bratwurst, find a low carb one, next time get the same one. Look for a plain yoghurt, find a low carb one, next time get the same one. Not really a problem.

 

[Klpville]

You do like to make things difficult. Look for Bratwurst, find a low carb one, next time get the same one. Look for a plain yoghurt, find a low carb one, next time get the same one. Not really a problem.

That's how the matters stand. I would definitely buy the same one again. However, I won't be able to do it before I sort them out first and choose the "correct" ones.

 

[bulkbiker]

That's how the matters stand. I would definitely buy the same one again. However, I won't be able to do it before I sort them out first and choose the "correct" ones.

Yoghurts are pretty easy.. anything with fruit will be bad so you want plain and as high a fat content as poss.. that probably reduced your 800 to about 20 max immediately. Hope that helps.

 

[Klpville]

I just also realized that there was no eating out for me any more.. When you cook it for yourself you're 100% sure on carbs, sugars, and stuff in your meals, but I guess no chef / restaurant will care about this. Are there any restaurants / cafes for diabetics?

 

[Brunneria]

I just also realized that there was no eating out for me any more.. When you cook it for yourself you're 100% sure on carbs, sugars, and stuff in your meals, but I guess no chef / restaurant will care about this. Are there any restaurants / cafes for diabetics?

Again, don't make things difficult for yourself.
Of course you can eat out.
I do so regularly and I am on a carnviore way of eating that is much stricter than most low carb ways of eating.

You can eat all not-mucked-about-with meats, fish and eggs.
All salad and above ground veg.
You can have cheese instead of pudding.
We get indian and chinese takeaways (chosen with care, of course).

I love food and have never accepted that low carbing is a restrictive or miserable existence, and I have never let it affect my social life*. I went Gluten Free a couple of years ago, and simply apply the same positive Can Do attitude to that, too. I am an expert in which local restaurent have the best omelettes, mixed grills, steaks, GF burgers and seafood platters. Some of the cheeseboards are sublime. I choose chicken shashlik, butter chicken or tandoori when we go to a curry house. All are delicious. Only last week I encountered the most fabulous Breakfast Omelette I have ever eaten, in our local garden centre cafe.

In about 30 years of eating low, lower carb, keto and now carnivore, I have only been into about 5 eateries where there was nothing I could eat. Everywhere else has had something I can enjoy and leave satisfied, even if I leave some of the food on the plate at the end of the meal (usually the carby side dish).

*except for a couple of times where it has provided me with the most superb opportunity to avoid an excruciating social gathering that I didn't want to go to in the first place!

 

[Hungry19]

Hello everyone!

1. Would highly appreciate it if somebody could advise please, what do you substitute / replace bread with? Is there an option to buy /find low carbs bread? Normally, it's about 15 carbs per one little slice of any bread...

2. I found this Whole Grain Bran Oatmeal over here but it contains 53 grams of carbs! That's a whole lot as far as I understand. Here is the full list of its ingredients:
Nutritional value/100g: energy 1550 kJ (370 kcal), fat 8.0 g (of which saturated 1.6 g), carbohydrates 53 g (of which sugars 1.3 g), dietary fiber 12 g, protein 15 g, salt 0 g.
Vitamins and minerals / 100 g: B-1 vitamins 0.5 mg (45%), folic acid 47 ug (24%), iron 5.6 mg (40%), magnesium 137 mg (37%), zinc 3.9 mg (39%).

I don't think it's the right oatmeal to eat is it? Even though it contains fiber, vitamins, and all the other useful stuff, the number of carbs (aka sugar molecules) scares me. In fact, its glycemic index is supposed to be low as well but with this number of carbs.. I am not sure.. Any advices / comments / suggestions? Many thanks in advance!

Try Rye bread - just stand +look at ingredients - found a 9g per slice in Tesco (May be the 400g loaf)
Make ur own keto bread (almond flour/eggs) diet doctor/ gnom/gnom.

 

[Klpville]

Try Rye bread - just stand +look at ingredients - found a 9g per slice in Tesco (May be the 400g loaf)
Make ur own keto bread (almond flour/eggs) diet doctor/ gnom/gnom.

esattamente (Italian) - exactly As an ex production baker I will just bake it myself.

 

[Klpville]

My favorite Morrisons is still the best store ever! I have always loved it because they genuinely care. I can see it and feel it in my bones. I thought I would just browse through to take a look at what they have on their low carb zone shelves and wow! Surprise! Low carb bread with just 3.7g of carbs and 11g of protein per slice! Here is the link https://groceries.morrisons.com/webshop/product/Carbzone-Low-Carb-Protein-Bread/304465011?from=shop
Your happy regular customer is on his way to shop!
The country of origin of this bread is lovely Germany and the manufacturer is in Sweden.