donnellysdogs
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Completely agree with you.I was one of those 'guilty' about banging on over the loss of the Lidl rolls. I am certainly not hysterical about the fact that they are no longer around, nor am I throwing tantrums. I was not allergic to them and they didn't spike me if eaten in thirds over the course of a day, so why shouldn't I eat them as part of a low-carb lifestyle? In my view, being allergic to something is different from being able to accommodate it comfortably - of course if I was allergic to bread I wouldn't eat it, similarly if the Lidl rolls (and note this was the ONLY form of bread I ate since diagnosis) spiked me badly. Most of the Lidl thread posts were tongue-in-cheek anyway and many gave me a laugh, although granted there were a lot of them! Does it not all boil down to what suits the individual, what they can cope with and how they use foods in their low-carb way of eating to give them good results, rather than what someone else thinks they should be doing?
Rant over! I've had a bit of 'you should be doing this, why aren't you doing that, why ARE you doing that!' recently.....
Well it seems from this very long thread that many of us found bread the most difficult thing to give up If any of us has found they can eat a certain low carb bread of even a small slice of normal bread then why not have it. I have never seen the point of giving up what you don't have to or going lower carb than you need to
No, I cannot get away with eating bread. I may have a slice of low carb bread once in a blue moon, but I know on a regular basis it would affect my BG..and still I cannot understand the lettuce wrap thing. It tastes no different as to if I were to make a salad of the same ingredients. I would much rather make a massive green leaf salad with ham cheese 4 cherry tomatoes cucumber and celery.As a "Pre-Diabetic" you probably can get away with eating bread and enjoy the versatility of using it in many forms-Many diabetics cannot however without worsening blood glucose levels,myself included so I totally "Get" wrapping fillings in lettuce leaves and the like for snacks and light bites.
check out Amylopectin A and you might not eat bread again
Adam I keep reading and re-reading your reply and cannot get your point. BUT, I think you may have missed mine - that is to say one can go too far with LCHF or any other crusade that entirely removes bread from one's diet.I can testify that it is quite possible to put on weight without eating bread. You aren't exactly removing a food group by cutting out bread and it certainly won't lead to either malnutrition or starvation!
Donnelly - I was just trying to reduce the madness about food in general being so so so bad for us. In your case you have my upmost sympathy and, of course, I left room for exception - notwithstanding the seriousness of your condition - you are surviving very well. Good luck go with you.Die of starvation?? Relying on bread or die??
I've not ate bread and still here! 6 months of bread when recommended by certain medics and other diabetic... well, no. Never. And I'm a T1 so can supposedly inject for it.
For me certain foods add to my colon problems and bread is certainly one.
If I have a slither of a piece my meds that night for my colon will have to triple..
I havent starved. Sure with cancer I lost too much weight but that was due to other problems. I got a good BMI of 21 and certainly not starved!!
Donnelly - you have my upmost sympathy and my congratulations for living with such a serious condition BUT, of course, there was room for exception in my post.Die of starvation?? Relying on bread or die??
I've not ate bread and still here! 6 months of bread when recommended by certain medics and other diabetic... well, no. Never. And I'm a T1 so can supposedly inject for it.
For me certain foods add to my colon problems and bread is certainly one.
If I have a slither of a piece my meds that night for my colon will have to triple..
I havent starved. Sure with cancer I lost too much weight but that was due to other problems. I got a good BMI of 21 and certainly not starved!!
I never said that it was essential bulkbiker and "because it spikes blood sugar" so does EVERY CARB WE EAT - we are who we are and that is a creature that spent 5,000 years cultivating and crop rotating and making the human body as it is today and with its very necessary requirements for the ingredients that our ancestors developed. If we had stayed with their eating habits there would be no Type 2 Diabetes today BUT during the last five minues of civilisation we have become morbidly obese McD, KFC et al creatures. Long live oats, wheat and barley !!!!What "insanity" ? not eating bread because it spikes blood sugar? It's hardly a food essential now is it?
Adam I keep reading and re-reading your reply and cannot get your point. BUT, I think you may have missed mine - that is to say one can go too far with LCHF or any other crusade that entirely removes bread from one's diet.
STOP this insanity or die of starvation and not Diabetes - come on !!??
I can testify that it is quite possible to put on weight without eating bread. You aren't exactly removing a food group by cutting out bread and it certainly won't lead to either malnutrition or starvation!
You seem to conveniently forget the hundreds of thousands of years when we didn't eat grains (or at least not domesticated grains). You stated Stop the Insanity... I don't think there is any" insanity" in not eating bread or trying to consume as few carbs as possible. I have no intention of starving and eat very well thanks. You were the one with the hysterical reaction to a simple question. Why eat something that we know has contributed to making us ill in the first place. To me it seems completely illogical but there are obviously many others who disagree.I never said that it was essential bulkbiker and "because it spikes blood sugar" so does EVERY CARB WE EAT - we are who we are and that is a creature that spent 5,000 years cultivating and crop rotating and making the human body as it is today and with its very necessary requirements for the ingredients that our ancestors developed. If we had stayed with their eating habits there would be no Type 2 Diabetes today BUT during the last five minues of civilisation we have become morbidly obese McD, KFC et al creatures. Long live oats, wheat and barley !!!!
Who’d have thought bread could be such an emotive subject?
I like the crusts. Send them all to meTell me about it, I'm livid right now. I'm down to the crusts on my current loaf of LivLife, I really don't like them, and Waitrose complaints department seem to have blocked my number.
Waitrose complaints department (like the BBC) are very good at fobbing off complaints I have found..Annoying as I like a good moan, no surprise there say lots of forum members!Tell me about it, I'm livid right now. I'm down to the crusts on my current loaf of LivLife, I really don't like them, and Waitrose complaints department seem to have blocked my number.
I like the crusts. Send them all to me
Annoying as I like a good moan, no surprise there say lots of forum members!
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