I don't have the figures for Italy but in the USA 26.8% of over 65's have diabetes. It could be that the 35% just happened to have diabetes rather than that is what led to their death. No doubt many of those who died had grey hair or poor eyesight but that didn't put them at more risk of dying.
I posted these in another thread earlier - the Chinese figures, where diabetics infected have about 2-3x increased risk of death versus all those infected. These Italian numbers look similar.
For the simple reason that the medics are not specialists in the co-morbidities and are just focussed on trying to save as many lives as possible rather than to collect data for some later study!the problem is none of these stats say if any of the diabetes deaths were well controlled people under 70.
As we're now past 10k deaths globally, almost certain that at least one of those deaths was in well controlled, under 70.the problem is none of these stats say if any of the diabetes deaths were well controlled people under 70.
I'm not sure what either Wuhan or Northern Italy have been like recently since though I have visited both it was over 10yrs ago. Back then Wuhan was only possible the 3rd most polluted city in China - Xian was the worst followed by Beijing.
So based upon these figures, it is much worse to be Male than Female, and much worse to have a health condition than not, and much worse to be so old you that they were likely to die of something else in the next couple of years!
This may be scary for those in those categories, but we all must eventually die and so there must be a cause of death, even if it is so confusing that the Doctor says it was 'Old Age'.
The other interesting thing about these stats and figures is this. Are postmortems carried out after a death with this virus? The reason I ask is there are millions upon millions in the world walking around with either diabetes, cardiovascular disease, high blood pressure, cholesterol, the list goes on, without knowing it or having them diagnosed . Are these conditions therefore found after death via a postmortem to add to the stats? If not then it could paint more of a positive picture for people with underlying conditions because apparently the death rate is low for those without. So thousands of "recovered" patients deemed "healthy" could indeed have un-diagnosed underlying conditions If you see what I mean!!!
Coronavirus has killed more people in Italy than in any other country, after deaths there rose by 427 in a day.
The number of deaths now stands at 3,405, which is more than in China where the virus originated last year.
For sure. I suppose in a cruel twist you might contract it, but then walk under a bridge that collapses and kills you, rather than COVID-19! However, on a like for like basis v a non-diabetic who also contracts COVID-19, you are about 3x more likely to die. So while the diabetes doesn't kill you, it gives a helping hand.I believe if I contract it, it will be the COPD I have that kills me and not T2 diabetes...
Where do you get that figure from?However, on a like for like basis v a non-diabetic who also contracts COVID-19, you are about 3x more likely to die.
When you look at it, you only die once.So while the diabetes doesn't kill you, it gives a helping hand.
Just because 3 times as many people who died had diabetes it doesn't mean that people with diabetes are 3 times as likely to die. No doubt a high percentage of the people that died had poor eyesight (due to their age) but people who wear glasses are not more likely to die.See below
Don't be too buisy looking at the sky to miss that dodgy pavement..
Statistics just love 'em.No doubt a high percentage of the people that died had poor eyesight (due to their age) but people who wear glasses are not more likely to die.
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