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Breakdown of Italy’s figures (edited title)

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by HSSS, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The hope is that there has been potentially a very large number of people who have had the sniffles, a cold or no symptoms at all thus never being tested. Yep the down side is those inadvertently may infect others, but if those numbers haven't been counted then the death rate will be much lower. Hopefully!!!
     
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    35% had diabetes!!! I am surprised that those with respiratory diseases are not in the top three. Not liking these figures at all.
     
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    Yeah 35% is high!
    You would have thought people with upper respiratory and serious conditions like cancer etc would be higher then diabetes.
     
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    EllieM Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    But there is no differentiation with the diabetes as to type or level of control. And I'm guessing by the time that that information becomes available the virus will have run its course (hopefully without taking too many of us with it). Even the oldest and sickest people still have a good chance of survival, it's just that it's a bit like playing Russian roulette......without knowing how many bullets are in the chamber.

    All we can do is attempt to keep our sugars level, and self isolate if we feel we're at very high risk.
     
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    EllieM Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    It could be that there are many more diabetics than those other conditions? (Italy has a very high elderly population, I'm guessing T2 is rampant among the oldest most vulnerable group.)

    Remember, the figures don't say that 35% of diabetics will die, just that 35% of deaths are diabetic. That is completely different.
     
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    true
    if the numbers say its elderly people with diabetes and badly controlled then it might be less worrying as it means we can do things to ensure we keep our sugar level in control.
    My levels are not perfect. My HB1c level is usually around 8-9.
     
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    We are not typical diabetics.

    over half of those that have died had at least 3 conditions. Another quarter had at least 2

    it is not saying diabetes caused the death. More widespread ill health in general did.
     
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    Thank you for starting this thread, @HSSS . It is very comforting.
     
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    SaskiaKC Type 2 · Expert

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    The sun is setting and the sky is full of clouds but the sun is casting a beautiful rosy light on the grey clouds. I would get up to take a picture of it but my cat is asleep on my lap and when she wakes up the sun will have set ...
    To rise again ...
     
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    I didn't even have to disturb the KittenCat. :)
     
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    The whole point of RR is not knowing which chamber the bullet is..

    Treat the gun as fully loaded.? & imagine youself holding the "piece." ;)
     
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    Don't be too buisy looking at the sky to miss that dodgy pavement.. ;)
     
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    I still find the figures scary. I have several co morbities. I wonder how many of those people would have lived if they hadn't been triaged out of a ventilator in favour of a younger person?

    Did you see the tributes to the 88 year old who died in UK? Wow! What a wonderful guy he was and what a full life he was living. Let's not write off all our elderly just because of the number which is their age. Most will be sorely missed.
     
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    According to ICU docs in Northern Italy, very few if any who they 'intubate' survive - no matter what age they are!
     
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    Did you read the report? 35% of cases were diabetic. In my eyes that is pretty bad.....

    Comforting that 35% of the cases were diabetic??
     
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    I don't have the figures for Italy but in the USA 26.8% of over 65's have diabetes. It could be that the 35% just happened to have diabetes rather than that is what led to their death. No doubt many of those who died had grey hair or poor eyesight but that didn't put them at more risk of dying.
     
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    That is not the point....the point is 35% of the cases had diabetes.....which in my eyes is concerning. The USAs diabetes problem is food related AND their obsession with fast food and their weight problem (Dont shoot me on this please)
     
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