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A community is :“a social group sharing common characteristics or interests.......
Yes, by definition. this is a diabetic community but first and foremost it is a forum.....
What is your relationship with diabetes anyway? I was not determine from your profile? I can't help wondering why it seems so important to you to find blame with t2 diabetics.
Peace and goodwill to all, it is, after all Christmas ..................
Well IMHO Scardoc you are missing one very important point and that is that this is a support forum for diabetics, yes there are all sorts of forums on the www, forums for people who like a particular football team or make/model of car or a pastime such as cycling or fishing but a support forum by definition is for the mutual support of diabetics what it is not here for is to apportion blame to a section of the community ie some of you ate yourselves to diabetes, that type of statement has no place on a support forum as all it does is makes people feel bad about themselves.
Support forums are there for the benefit of other like minded individuals to try to help not to point fingers.
And of course despite all that the reasons why people develop T2 diabetes are wide and varied and not yet fully understood and whilst obesity may be a marker it is not a cause as only 20% of obese people will develop diabetes, so statements like that do no good what-so-ever and can only help make people feel bad about themselves the complete opposite of what this support forum is here to do.
@pavlosn
Again, I have to take great exception to your comment above.
I firmly believe that it is important this is acknowledged to help improve a vast array of issues in our society.
@Scardoc I'm interested as to why the bit of blame and lots of shame helped you.
For me it just drove me deeper into depression because I was already doing my best. I didn't need blame or shame I just needed someone to say 'low carb' to me and I would have done it. The depression just made things worse as I lacked the energy or the will to cook proper meals. It didn't help that a nurse from my surgery 'caught' me leaving a chip shop one day, so at my next appointment she laughed when I said I was trying to lose weight. The fish and chips were for my sons and husband as both boys had football training at different times that evening and it was hard to find the time to cook for them and deliver and collect them from training. My husband always got home from work between 8 and 9 pm in those days. I had already eaten a 'healthy' low fat meal. I have been wrongly judged by people like this on many occasions.
So was it just a case of 'head in the sand ' for you?
Except.....Jesus wasn't born in December, it was probably September and the Christians just stole the festival from the pagans. lol, I guess I got the argumentative gene from my Dad.
I'll get my coat
Merry Christmas
As I wasn't there at the time Zand, I wont be commenting, just trying to add a little peace and goodwill, that's all .............
As no one in his right mind would ever suggest that an autoimmune disease like t1 is a matter of lifestyle choice, I am not sure who other than t2s you may have referring to when talking about blaming and shaming.
As a t2 myself, I think my own personal experience tells me that a newly diagnosed t2 does a good job himself of experiencing blame and shame as you put it, whether rightly or wrongly, that he does not need these negative feelings reinforced by anyone else.
I find the whole essence of your blame and shame argument not only offensive, but also insensitive, judgmental and more worryingly potentially highly dangerous and harmful to the likely users of these forum, some of which may be in particularly vulnerable state of minds. More so because they are obviously targeted at t2s by someone who is not t2 himself.
Nonetheless, although I may disagree with your opinions very strongly, to put it mildly, they are your opinions.
And it is Christmas, so
Seasons greetings to you.
As no one in his right mind would ever suggest that an autoimmune disease like t1 is a matter of lifestyle choice, I am not sure who other than t2s you may have referring to when talking about blaming and shaming.
As a t2 myself, I think my own personal experience tells me that a newly diagnosed t2 does a good job himself of experiencing blame and shame as you put it, whether rightly or wrongly, that he does not need these negative feelings reinforced by anyone else.
I find the whole essence of your blame and shame argument not only offensive, but also insensitive, judgmental and more worryingly potentially highly dangerous and harmful to the likely users of these forum, some of which may be in particularly vulnerable state of minds. More so because they are obviously targeted at t2s by someone who is not t2 himself.
Nonetheless, although I may disagree with your opinions very strongly, to put it mildly, they are your opinions.
And it is Christmas, so
Seasons greetings to you.