Carb flu - how to get past it?

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I also wonder if one or both of your parents are diabetic, but haven't been tested yet.

My mum has been told today that she could possibly have pre diabetes and the doctor needs to do more blood tests, she is starting to freak out and I don't know what to do to help her.
 

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My mum has been told today that she could possibly have pre diabetes and the doctor needs to do more blood tests, she is starting to freak out and I don't know what to do to help her.
Nothing. Just smile kindly.

You have been through hell with diabetes and you are still there. Eventually she will ask for your help and then you show her http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf.
 
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My mum has been told today that she could possibly have pre diabetes and the doctor needs to do more blood tests, she is starting to freak out and I don't know what to do to help her.
Tell her about this forum :)
 

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My husband is gluten free and has to travel and he doesn't have a problem when he stays in chain hotels as long as he (a) mentions it when booking (b) reminds them at check-in.

People are used to making arrangements for special diets these days e.g. vegetarian, vegan, gluten free, lactose free, nut free, halal and kosher. There's nothing wrong in saying you need low carb food because you're on a diet or telling the course providers that you have a carbohydrate intolerance.

Why do you, person with a **** relationship with food, have to be the one to cook for the team ? Why couldn't you get excused from that to cook for yourself or have them do you simple low carb ?

I'm sorry to hear about your mother but maybe now she will be more supportive and your dad will have to eat low carb too.
 
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There was a whole discussion about who is cooking what and when during the week away. Also I only cooked for one night with two other team members which was fajitas and curly fries with strudel and ice cream for desserts. Everyone on the team knows that I'm diabetic and some members of the team have diabetic relatives and they felt Tha the dinner meals were ok for me.

I couldn't get excused to cook for myself as part of the course is to try everyone's cooking.

My dad will never eat low carb, he sent me to the shop to get some chocolate bars and devoured 4 double deckers after having a variation of hunters chicken, but with pork and chips and peas.

My parents don't believe in dieting, they believe that eating less throughout the day and having one big meal for dinner is enough to keep energetic.
 

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Why do you care what your parents think about dieting? Are they medical professionals? Your health and your life depend on you taking control of your choices as an adult.
 
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I feel sorry for you. You have received a great deal of helpful advice, but you haven't really committed to trying it. You are letting people that do not have diabetes--or that do, but do not control it-- lead you down the wrong path. Make up your mind about your health and how you want to live your life. No one else is going to walk in your shoes, take your medications, and ultimately, lead a life of illness and regrets...you are. Diabetes doesn't get better. It gets worse. That is the one guarantee...unless, you stop it.

Life is full of choices. You need to make your choice. Stop making excuses about why you can or can't be successful, why you can or can't eat certain foods. Get mad at your diabetes and kick it to the curb. Take back your health and your life.
 
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I feel sorry for you. You have received a great deal of helpful advice, but you haven't really committed to trying it. You are letting people that do not have diabetes--or that do, but do not control it-- lead you down the wrong path. Make up your mind about your health and how you want to live your life. No one else is going to walk in your shoes, take your medications, and ultimately, lead a life of illness and regrets...you are. Diabetes doesn't get better. It gets worse. That is the one guarantee...unless, you stop it.

Life is full of choices. You need to make your choice. Stop making excuses about why you can or can't be successful, why you can or can't eat certain foods. Get mad at your diabetes and kick it to the curb. Take back your health and your life.
Well said. I see a future of fatigue, recurrent infections, mood swings, blindness, kidney failure and amputations unless some responsibility is taken for choices.
 

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Akindrat18 - I've had a good read through these posts. My opinion is that you have a serious eating disorder. It's clear in the manner in which you look for excuses not to change your diet.The article you linked regarding low carb diets being bad for you was not intended for people with diabetes - in fact, if you read the conclusion, the author states that she accepts that such diets are useful for certain medical conditions, of which diabetes is obviously one.
I think you know this - you did allude to your history of difficulty with food in one of your previous posts.
Push for your counselling, maybe even see your GP for a referral to an eating disorder specialist. You need professional help in tackling your relationship with food.
 
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Please, take responsibility for what you put in your mouth before you do yourself some irreparable damage.

Accept that your parents have certain beliefs then find a way to work around it. A big part of my job is cooking meals for 11 to 15 people. Every working day I do this and sometimes twice in one shift. The menus are devised by a dietician and in some cases are the subject of court orders so they must be adhered to. Mostly the food is very high in carbs which I know I mustn't eat if I am to remain healthy.

So I look at the menu, decide if there is anything I can't have and then bring in to work replacements for the items which aren't suitable. Nobody can ever force you to eat foods you shouldn't have to mainitain your health. It is entirely up to you what you put in your mouth.

Also, while my daughter was at Uni she kept a lot of foods in her room as they tended to go missing if kept in the communal fridge. I am sure you could do that, just select items which don't need to be refridgerated.
 
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Akindrat18 - I've had a good read through these posts. My opinion is that you have a serious eating disorder. It's clear in the manner in which you look for excuses not to change your diet.The article you linked regarding low carb diets being bad for you was not intended for people with diabetes - in fact, if you read the conclusion, the author states that she accepts that such diets are useful for certain medical conditions, of which diabetes is obviously one.
I think you know this - you did allude to your history of difficulty with food in one of your previous posts.
Push for your counselling, maybe even see your GP for a referral to an eating disorder specialist. You need professional help in tackling your relationship with food.

I do have a serious eating disorder. My blood sugars this morning were 10.2, had 2 rashers of bacon, 2 fried eggs and 1 sausage. 2 Hours later blood sugars at 12.8, an hour later 24.6.

I definitely need to be on insulin. I have had troubles with eating and food for 11 years. I always snack in secret with hiding chocolate, sweets and biscuits in my messenger bag.

I've got a counselling session next Monday after having my first session in August.
 
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I do have a serious eating disorder. My blood sugars this morning were 10.2, had 2 rashers of bacon, 2 fried eggs and 1 sausage. 2 Hours later blood sugars at 12.8, an hour later 24.6.

I definitely need to be on insulin. I have had troubles with eating and food for 11 years. I always snack in secret with hiding chocolate, sweets and biscuits in my messenger bag.

I've got a counselling session next Monday after having my first session in August.
Yes, please see your HCP asap with a view to starting on insulin. Your body needs a break from high BGs while you work on the psychological issues. Hyperglycaemia does affect the mood and cognition so having BGs in the normal range will help you tackle the issues while hopefully stopping the damage to your eyes, kidneys and nerves.
 
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Well done, @akindrat18. Admitting that you secretly snack (binge perchance?) on junk food is the first step to recovery. You can decieve others, but you know the truth. I think it has been your reluctance / inability to be totally honest here that has annoyed and frustrated many trying to help you.
You will gain most from the counselling if you can be totally honest with the therapist too. Don't waste your time, or the counsellor's by holding anything back. You have already taken the first step to your recovery. Good for you!
 
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@akindrat18, I think you're still deceiving us. The reason I say that is that a rise of 2.6 two hours after the breakfast you describe is not at all bad, but how did it double 1 hour later? It most cases it tends to go down not up What did you eat?
 
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@akindrat18, I think you're still deceiving us. The reason I say that is that a rise of 2.6 two hours after the breakfast you describe is not at all bad, but how did it double 1 hour later? It most cases it tends to go down not up What did you eat?
He may well be, but at least he has now said he needs to be on insulin, which I take as progress, because a while ago he was resisting that idea.
 

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I think the decision to be put on insulin is down to his Endo and no-one else.
 

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I think the decision to be put on insulin is down to his Endo and no-one else.
Legally it's the patient's decision, actually. Previously he was unwilling to even consider it.
 

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@akindrat18, I think you're still deceiving us. The reason I say that is that a rise of 2.6 two hours after the breakfast you describe is not at all bad, but how did it double 1 hour later? It most cases it tends to go down not up What did you eat?

I did have several cups of tea with semi skimmed milk, plus I did a 15km sponsored walk today for the princes trust programme which completed by half 3 and at half 6, my mum made me a bscon, egg and tomato on a oven bottom muffin.

Yes, please see your HCP asap with a view to starting on insulin. Your body needs a break from high BGs while you work on the psychological issues. Hyperglycaemia does affect the mood and cognition so having BGs in the normal range will help you tackle the issues while hopefully stopping the damage to your eyes, kidneys and nerves.

I already suffer from thrush and I've had it for months and I suspect that I may have an infection in my left big toe as its painful and red.
 

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I did have several cups of tea with semi skimmed milk, plus I did a 15km sponsored walk today for the princes trust programme which completed by half 3 and at half 6, my mum made me a bscon, egg and tomato on a oven bottom muffin.



I already suffer from thrush and I've had it for months and I suspect that I may have an infection in my left big toe as its painful and red.
Well done for doing the sponsored walk! I would struggle to walk more than a mile or so at the moment, so you are doing better than me :)

Thrush is horrible, so I really sympathise with you. Have you seen your nurse, GP or podiatrist about your toe? Keep checking it every day, keep it clean and try to keep it elevated as much as you can. You might need antibiotics for it. If it's cellulitis, then be aware that can escalate within hours and if it does, please go straight to A&E whatever the time of day. How long has it been sore and red? Has the area of redness increased in size?

IMO the sooner you can see a HCP and ask about insulin the better. Other meds don't seem to have worked, and I think there are too many factors in your life making it hard to low-carb effectively at the moment. Insulin doesn't have to be permanent, if you can get to a place where low-carbing is more feasible for you.
 

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@CatLadyNZ I think you may have missed my point. The decision should be that of the Endo and not any of us as we are not medically qualified. What @akindrat18 decides is entirely up to him.
 
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