Type 2 Carbohydrate intolerance?

[darenu]

Hi all, just registered after seeing some posts from googling the heading.

I was diagnosed T2 about 8 years ago after an OGT, with symptoms ranging from numbness in hands and feet and constant urination. As the years have gone by, my symptoms worsened with fatigue, elbow and knee joint pain and brain fog headache which over the last few months, became debilitating and was beginning to affect work and home life.

I then read an article on the above and decided to try the two week test and remove almost all carbohydrates from my diet. Within 48 hours, symptoms began to subside, morning brain fog headache was the first thing that disappeared, then joint pain diminished and energy levels rose.

I returned to my GP as I was concerned with the amount of fat I was eating and what would happen to my cholesterol. My GP was astonished and bemused, even my blood pressure was lower than usual.

So what's going on? Do I have diabetes or is it just that my body doesn't tolerate carbs very well? To be honest, the last 3 weeks have made me feel a whole lot better and I will continue to limit my card intake to more or less go into ketosis.

To add to this, my family had an India take away at the weekend and after having some mint sauce for the starters, I've gone backwards and then realised that sugar is used to sweeten!

Back to protein and fat and hoping to feel good again soon.

Would love to hear if anyone else has had/tried this?

Thanks, and kind regards.

Daren

 

[Kristin251]

Hi all, just registered after seeing some posts from googling the heading.

I was diagnosed T2 about 8 years ago after an OGT, with symptoms ranging from numbness in hands and feet and constant urination. As the years have gone by, my symptoms worsened with fatigue, elbow and knee joint pain and brain fog headache which over the last few months, became debilitating and was beginning to affect work and home life.

I then read an article on the above and decided to try the two week test and remove almost all carbohydrates from my diet. Within 48 hours, symptoms began to subside, morning brain fog headache was the first thing that disappeared, then joint pain diminished and energy levels rose.

I returned to my GP as I was concerned with the amount of fat I was eating and what would happen to my cholesterol. My GP was astonished and bemused, even my blood pressure was lower than usual.

So what's going on? Do I have diabetes or is it just that my body doesn't tolerate carbs very well? To be honest, the last 3 weeks have made me feel a whole lot better and I will continue to limit my card intake to more or less go into ketosis.

To add to this, my family had an India take away at the weekend and after having some mint sauce for the starters, I've gone backwards and then realised that sugar is used to sweeten!

Back to protein and fat and hoping to feel good again soon.

Would love to hear if anyone else has had/tried this?

Thanks, and kind regards.

Daren

I am very carb intolerant. Both with bg, my stomach, aches, pains, headaches just like you.
When going lc we inadvertently remove some offending foods we might be intolerant to. Such as grains of all kinds. There is also a family of veggies called nightshades that are very well known to cause inflammation and arthritis. Those veggies are potato, tomato, eggplant and all forms of peppers. I removed them for years and now can occasionally eat small amounts but sometimes still get the symptoms. Tomato makes the back of my knee swell and my fingers and wrists achy.

 

[AM1874]

Hi @darenu .. and welcome
If you were diagnosed T2 eight years ago and nothing has changed in terms of your blood sugar readings and HbA1c, then it's probably safe to assume that you are still diabetic. The best news, however, is that you have started to realise that eating carbs is your problem .. AND you are now addressing this by taking up an LCHF lifestyle.

You will be aware thatt here is a lot of conflicting and sometimes confusing information around .. but the key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your blood sugar seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the valuable material that she will soon be sending you. I think that you might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need about carb levels and about what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

I'm not sure if you are testing your blood sugar levels, but unless you have been prescribed a test meter and strips by your Doc (unlikely), it is a priority that you get yourself one and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £29.49
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £58.98
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps

 

[Rachox]

Hi Darenu and welcome. Type 2 diabetes is an inability to process sugar properly so you end up with too much in your blood stream which results in the symptoms you were having. Carbohydrates turn to sugar in your body, so that's why you've felt so much better on cutting your carb intake.
I'll tag @daisy1 who post loads of info and useful links for you.
I'm four months from diagnosis. I wasn't advised to eat low carb, but stumbled on this forum by chance and took up a low carb life style with self monitoring. Self monitoring is another thing you need to do, it'll help you assess which foods you can tolerate better than others. To date I've lost three and a half stone and got my HbA1c down significantly, all due to the advise I got here. It's such a shame health care professionals don't recommend low carbing. I find it sad that you've suffered so long, but you are well on the way cracking it by the sounds.

 

[daisy1]

@darenu

Hello Daren and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

• Reduce your carbohydrate intake
• Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes

• Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l

Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)

• Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l

Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)

• Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l

However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

• structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
• self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.

• Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
• Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.

 

[darenu]

I am very carb intolerant. Both with bg, my stomach, aches, pains, headaches just like you.
When going lc we inadvertently remove some offending foods we might be intolerant to. Such as grains of all kinds. There is also a family of veggies called nightshades that are very well known to cause inflammation and arthritis. Those veggies are potato, tomato, eggplant and all forms of peppers. I removed them for years and now can occasionally eat small amounts but sometimes still get the symptoms. Tomato makes the back of my knee swell and my fingers and wrists achy.

Hi Kristin251,

Thanks for you reply and info. This will be very useful, as I am eating a lot of tomatoes at the moment, so will drop them for a while. Really need to start work on some recipes, so I don't get bored of just eating fish/meat with veg in butter....

 

[darenu]

Hi @darenu .. and welcome
If you were diagnosed T2 eight years ago and nothing has changed in terms of your blood sugar readings and HbA1c, then it's probably safe to assume that you are still diabetic. The best news, however, is that you have started to realise that eating carbs is your problem .. AND you are now addressing this by taking up an LCHF lifestyle.

You will be aware thatt here is a lot of conflicting and sometimes confusing information around .. but the key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your blood sugar seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the valuable material that she will soon be sending you. I think that you might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need about carb levels and about what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

I'm not sure if you are testing your blood sugar levels, but unless you have been prescribed a test meter and strips by your Doc (unlikely), it is a priority that you get yourself one and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £29.49
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £58.98
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps

Hi AM1874,

Many thanks for the reply and links which I will definitely look to purchase.

I must admit that I don't take BG readings and have thought I should be for a long time, but usually either feel too tired to add to the list of things to do, or just forget.........

I remember whilst taking the 2 hour OGT, I felt so bad at the end of the 2 hours I thought I was going to faint and the last few months were getting like that. Not good when you travel all round the UK for work and have to look after your 19 year old son when back home.

In a way, feeling the headache, joint pain and lack of energy coming back again, after not realising the sugar in the Raita from the local Indian takeaway, has made me realise that i have to make this diet work for me.

Thank you, Daren.

 

[darenu]

@darenu

Hello Daren and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

• Reduce your carbohydrate intake
• Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes

• Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l

Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)

• Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l

Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)

• Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
• 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l

However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

• structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
• self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.

• Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
• Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.

Hi Daisy1,

Many thanks for all this valuable information, which gives me every chance to work out the dietary requirements I need to access, to give me better health going forward. I have passed this on to my boss, who has been very understanding recently regarding the debilitating symptoms I was suffering with and it will help her understand what I need to do to get back to a more satisfactory performance.

This is really appreciated and thanks for taking the time to help. Daren.

 

[darenu]

Hi Darenu and welcome. Type 2 diabetes is an inability to process sugar properly so you end up with too much in your blood stream which results in the symptoms you were having. Carbohydrates turn to sugar in your body, so that's why you've felt so much better on cutting your carb intake.
I'll tag @daisy1 who post loads of info and useful links for you.
I'm four months from diagnosis. I wasn't advised to eat low carb, but stumbled on this forum by chance and took up a low carb life style with self monitoring. Self monitoring is another thing you need to do, it'll help you assess which foods you can tolerate better than others. To date I've lost three and a half stone and got my HbA1c down significantly, all due to the advise I got here. It's such a shame health care professionals don't recommend low carbing. I find it sad that you've suffered so long, but you are well on the way cracking it by the sounds.

Hi Rachox,

It does appear that monitoring my BG is the thing I have not been advised to do over the last 8 or so years and will get this started asap.

Well done on the weight loss also. I'm just at the top of the BMI scale for my height, so weight loss isn't too much of a concern for me.

Thank you, Daren.

 

[Rachox]

Hi Rachox,

It does appear that monitoring my BG is the thing I have not been advised to do over the last 8 or so years and will get this started asap.

Well done on the weight loss also. I'm just at the top of the BMI scale for my height, so weight loss isn't too much of a concern for me.

Thank you, Daren.

My GP didn't advocate self testing so I don't get a meter or strips in prescription but I believe it's central to managing blood sugars, so I fund it myself.

 

[Kristin251]

Hi Kristin251,

Thanks for you reply and info. This will be very useful, as I am eating a lot of tomatoes at the moment, so will drop them for a while. Really need to start work on some recipes, so I don't get bored of just eating fish/meat with veg in butter....

I made a low carb chili without tomato yesterday but lots of spicy pepper sauce.

Knees and wrists achy today

I make lots of lettuce wraps with egg, turkey or chicken salad with mayo and top the lettuce

I make chopped salads and chop chicken turkey lamb or beef. Salmon or tuna. I chop it up then chop scallion celery radish asparagus and avocado. Drizzle with olive oil, add herbs and mix it up.

A lettuce wrap with a piece of deli turkey and a ocDo smashed in is my standard bf. Or just avocado with sea salt
The chopped salad is my standard lunch and dinner is the meat and veg.

Sometimes the same foods just plated differently help variety.

Hope you feel better. I highly recommend getting a meter. It's the only way we know what's going on. FEELING something going on isn't always a good sign

 

[darenu]

Thanks again. Ordered the meter offered in advice earlier, so should be here tomorrow.

Trying beef meat balls and homemade mayo with salad tonight.

Biggest issue will be my latte in the morning. Always thought it was the caffeine making me feel ill, but now realise it's the 20 odd grams of carbs twice, sometimes three times a day. When I first tried the LCHF, gave up coffee and alcohol for the first two weeks and felt better, especially my feet and hands feeling much warmer and less numbness. So, coffee with cream at home tomorrow and lots of water.

Also, do you know if these low sugar cordials are safe? I struggle with straight water.

Thanks again, Daren

 

[Kristin251]

Thanks again. Ordered the meter offered in advice earlier, so should be here tomorrow.

Trying beef meat balls and homemade mayo with salad tonight.

Biggest issue will be my latte in the morning. Always thought it was the caffeine making me feel ill, but now realise it's the 20 odd grams of carbs twice, sometimes three times a day. When I first tried the LCHF, gave up coffee and alcohol for the first two weeks and felt better, especially my feet and hands feeling much warmer and less numbness. So, coffee with cream at home tomorrow and lots of water.

Also, do you know if these low sugar cordials are safe? I struggle with straight water.

Thanks again, Daren

I love meatballs. I only put herbs in them. No fillers or eggs. No need. I do it with chicken too. Different shape haha. And I'm a mayo junkie!!
You can also make crustless quiche with bacon or sausage, cheese or veg. You can make it in a pie pan and freeze leftover slices. You can make it in muffin cups and portable. I carry lots of food with me in a soft sided cooler with ice packs. Takes all the thinking out of 'what am I going to eat'
I also bulk cook and freeze. Less time in the kitchen creating a tornado and then cleaning it up.

I'm thinking it could be the dairy in your coffee. Years ago my lattes bloated me and made me tired. Really? It's espresso!! Then I went to black coffee and all was well. Now I have a nespresso that gives me a wonderful thick crema like a latte without the milk/ cream. You could try unsweetened vanilla almond milk but I think it's gross in coffee. And it makes my tummy rumble.

Cordials? As in alcohol? I drink vodka water with a big lemon or lime squeeze. If you meant other then sparkling water with lemon or lime. I don't drink plain water well. I like the bubbles and citrus.

Good to know you're getting a meter. Best tool ever.

 

[Bluetit1802]

I don't often drink cordials, but if I do I chose one of the Robinsons sugar free ones. If you follow the dilution instructions there will be about 1g carb in it.

 

[Snapsy]

I don't enjoy plain water either, @darenu , but drink a lot of Robinson's sugar-free squash. They've got a new product, too, called 'Squash'd', which is very very very concentrated - I keep a tiny bottle of it in my bag so I can 'pimp' a glass of plain water when I'm not at home or work.

It has no effect on my blood sugar levels when diluted according to the instructions.

My favourite flavour is Summer Fruits - referred to by my husband as 'a glass of pink'!

 

[bulkbiker]

Thanks again. Ordered the meter offered in advice earlier, so should be here tomorrow.

Trying beef meat balls and homemade mayo with salad tonight.

Biggest issue will be my latte in the morning. Always thought it was the caffeine making me feel ill, but now realise it's the 20 odd grams of carbs twice, sometimes three times a day. When I first tried the LCHF, gave up coffee and alcohol for the first two weeks and felt better, especially my feet and hands feeling much warmer and less numbness. So, coffee with cream at home tomorrow and lots of water.

Also, do you know if these low sugar cordials are safe? I struggle with straight water.

Thanks again, Daren

Swap the milk in the latte for double cream just a tablespoon and get an Americano to add it to.

 

[serenity648]

I like my water with a slice of orange or lemon in it. Refreshing, hint of a taste, but no carbs as i dont eat the fruit.

 

[darenu]

Hi all, started the BG measurements today, first thing 5.5. Decided to see what would happen if I ate something I shouldn't and went for 2 pieces of buttered white toast, with 30ml whipping cream in coffee. 2 hours later BG was 10.5. Not sure whether this that bad or not but it did make me feel weak and disoriented. After 3 hours dropped to 7.5. Going to try some sweet potato fries with meat tonight....

 

[Bluetit1802]

Hi all, started the BG measurements today, first thing 5.5. Decided to see what would happen if I ate something I shouldn't and went for 2 pieces of buttered white toast, with 30ml whipping cream in coffee. 2 hours later BG was 10.5. Not sure whether this that bad or not but it did make me feel weak and disoriented. After 3 hours dropped to 7.5. Going to try some sweet potato fries with meat tonight....

Before eating 5.5,
2 hours after eating 10.5.
3 hours after eating 7.5.

You have learnt a lesson! So that is a positive. What is a negative is that your levels rose and at 2 hours were 5mmol/l more than when you started. At 2 hours the plan is to be under 2mmol/l, preferably less. I would not be trying the bread again!

I am perplexed as to why you have to ask if you have diabetes or not? You had a diagnosis 8 years ago. Why do you question this diagnosis now? A normal healthy non-diabetic rarely exceeds 7.8.

 

[CherryAA]

Thanks again. Ordered the meter offered in advice earlier, so should be here tomorrow.

Trying beef meat balls and homemade mayo with salad tonight.

Biggest issue will be my latte in the morning. Always thought it was the caffeine making me feel ill, but now realise it's the 20 odd grams of carbs twice, sometimes three times a day. When I first tried the LCHF, gave up coffee and alcohol for the first two weeks and felt better, especially my feet and hands feeling much warmer and less numbness. So, coffee with cream at home tomorrow and lots of water.

Also, do you know if these low sugar cordials are safe? I struggle with straight water.

Thanks again, Daren

I make a very nice tasting "spicy coffee" - coffee nutmeg, cinnamon, turmeric, cocoa and pepper - all of the ingredients are good for me - I use almond milk and a spoon of cream. It tastes very indulgent and very filling.