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Cereals And Diabetes

@kitedoc Cornflake cake? you mean the ones where you throw a pile of corflakes into a bowl of melted chocolate to make little cakes out of?

Yep made those earlier in the year for my birthday :woot::hungry:
 
Contralto said:
I wasted an incredible amount of time trying to find the area in hte article where they actually listed the standardized meals in the study

I also didn't find the word Kelloggs

Kelloggs uses GMO grains and adds sugar (2d. ingredient) so I don't purchase it ever, plus:

Ingredients: Corn (88%), sugar, salt, barley malt extract, vitamins (vitamin C, vitamin E, niacin, riboflavin, thiamin, folate), minerals (iron, zinc oxide).

24 grams carbs before you get to the milk, and people often add sugar to it
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The best that one might say is that at least the thiamine contained is helpful persons with alcohol and dietary intake issues !!
 
Knikki said:
OK fair enough but the sugar/carb content of breakfast cereals have been known about for years, so it's nothing really new and as this study was done in the US then the cornflakes used may have a higher content of such things, I don't think a particular brand was mentioned.

The study was interesting (need to finish reading it) because of the way CGM could show the rise of the BSL which is what Igot out of it. However breakfast cereals is one of the many things that could well be a problem with those that have a disposition to Diabetese especially T2D.

It is interesting granted but the issue with the foods used in the study is nothing new.
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But the problem is that so few people outside of here know about it... the amazement on the faces of the parents in the program "The Truth About Carbs" when they were shown the sugar equivalents that their children were eating every morning was worrying to say the least. The more the disaster that is the Eatwell Guide is publicised then more and more people will see what harm they are doing to themselves and their offspring by eating this stuff. If one or two people have their eyes opened then it's worth it.
 
Knikki said:
@kitedoc Cornflake cake? you mean the ones where you throw a pile of corflakes into a bowl of melted chocolate to make little cakes out of?

Yep made those earlier in the year for my birthday :woot::hungry:
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Sounds OK but with milk chocolate I guess would be the closest equivalent. I shall stick to oats, chia, linseed, wheatgerm, hemp powder, psyllium husk and milk for bkft cereal. Have not developed a cake formula yet !!
 
When my late FIL was diagnosed with T2 about 15 years ago he switched from toast and marmalade to corn flakes as per medical advice. I saw somewhere Kelloggs are going to reduce sugar in Coco Pops by 30% probably could do it across the range. I think cereals are used a lot as a quick meal by time poor families, teenagers and at Uni. Its going to be a hard sell that they are not a good choice.
 
bulkbiker said:
But the problem is that so few people outside of here know about it... the amazement on the faces of the parents in the program "The Truth About Carbs" when they were shown the sugar equivalents that their children were eating every morning was worrying to say the least. The more the disaster that is the Eatwell Guide is publicised then more and more people will see what harm they are doing to themselves and their offspring by eating this stuff. If one or two people have their eyes opened then it's worth it.
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A good point it seems these days that many people are unware of things like cereals and other foods, so if teir eyes are opened to it, it will be worth it.
 
lucylocket61 said:
oh no. My son has food issues (aspergers) and has two bowls of cornflakes and full fat milk a day as his staple breakfast and supper - but without any sugar. He doesnt like sweet foods at all. (and yes, I do know that carbs are sugars, please bear with me, this is important to his wellbeing) I dont know what he would eat instead. Feeding him is a challenge at the best of times, he has so many flavour and texture issues, is slim and his blood sugar levels are fine so far.
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I had the same issues with my oldest son for the same reason. There isn't a lot you can do. For my son it was only promite on toast and mashed potato for a long time. I remember from that time that it was a matter of picking my battles and the food one was way down the list of the battles I fought on a daily basis with him. The secret to very slowly expanding his range of foods was to invite him to lick the food first. Licking was a lot less daunting than actually sticking that vile looking thing in his mouth. We had a star chart for licking things, and 10 stars meant a new batman toy which he was totally obsessed with for years.
 
Contralto said:
I suppose because the Kellogg formula then was a breakfast porridge. Now it is an international sugar promoter
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I thought Kellogg's cereal was 'Carbs sprinkled with Carbs' and just avoided their products but once I learned of their association with the Church and the way that the Church would manipulate the diet of ordinary people to suit its own ends then it became serious for me.
 
ringi said:
Remember that skimmed milk is also a lot higher GI then full fat natural milk.
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It doesn’t

Full fat natural milk has a GI of 39, Skimmed milk has a GI of 37 according to most sources.

Some sources will show whole milk even higher, some show both lower.

Whatever source you use, both are considered low GI. and the difference between them is negligible

https://www.livestrong.com/article/417451-is-milk-really-low-glycemic/

https://www.health.harvard.edu/dise...lycemic-index-and-glycemic-load-for-100-foods

http://www.the-gi-diet.org/lowgifoods/
 
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Get someone with type2 who has a CGM to try it for you.....

(You can also add 50‰ water to real milk and get some think that works as well as fat free milk.)
 
As many of us already know, the GI of a foodstuff has very little to do with how it will affect a particular persons BG.
 
lucylocket61 said:
oh no. My son has food issues (aspergers) and has two bowls of cornflakes and full fat milk a day as his staple breakfast and supper - but without any sugar. He doesnt like sweet foods at all. (and yes, I do know that carbs are sugars, please bear with me, this is important to his wellbeing) I dont know what he would eat instead. Feeding him is a challenge at the best of times, he has so many flavour and texture issues, is slim and his blood sugar levels are fine so far.
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My daughter (almost 18) has asperges, if people think us controlling what we eat is tough, try feeding a child with asperges. She currently has egg, bacon and toast for breakast, she has been eating this for about a year but this could change in an instant, it is a constant battle with food, she has hyperinsulinism but no way on earth could we try to persuade her to eat one thing or another. We consider it a victory that she eats something. How do you get on in restaurants? I cant remember the last time my daughter and therefore wife were still at the table by the end of the meal, this is fine unless you are in a very expensive resturant for christmas dinner whilst abroad and all she will eat is a pizza from the childrens menu hehe (hehe = grrr) if she wanted conflakes, then cornflakes she would get. As a previous person said, we have to choose our battles. Best wishes


Edit: sorry for going off the thread topic, I dont know the age of your child but my daughter goes to a “youth haven” place once a week, its excellent and run by the local authority, it may be worth googling if you havent heard of it. Really very helpful, they do workshops in dealing with anger management, stress and anxiety etc etc. just a thought.
 
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Fenn said:
My daughter (almost 18) has asperges, if people think us controlling what we eat is tough, try feeding a child with asperges. She currently has egg, bacon and toast for breakast, she has been eating this for about a year but this could change in an instant, it is a constant battle with food, she has hyperinsulinism but no way on earth could we try to persuade her to eat one thing or another. We consider it a victory that she eats something. How do you get on in restaurants? I cant remember the last time my daughter and therefore wife were still at the table by the end of the meal, this is fine unless you are in a very expensive resturant for christmas dinner whilst abroad and all she will eat is a pizza from the childrens menu hehe (hehe = grrr) if she wanted conflakes, then cornflakes she would get. As a previous person said, we have to choose our battles. Best wishes


Edit: sorry for going off the thread topic, I dont know the age of your child but my daughter goes to a “youth haven” place once a week, its excellent and run by the local authority, it may be worth googling if you havent heard of it. Really very helpful, they do workshops in dealing with anger management, stress and anxiety etc etc. just a thought.
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thank you. we dont eat out with him. its not possible. sorry you are dealing with this too. there are no resources in our area for him. he is 20. He will now try things, and has expanded to eat most meat and most green veg, unless he is anxious, of course.
 
Knikki said:
I find that a mix of Cornflakes, Shreddies and some mixed fruit Muesli does infact cause a spike round 5 hours after eating it I find.

Blat some insulin in normally catches it.

Its a carb, it digests slowly it will spike you.

Or is this just an issue for T2's?
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All cereals are a huge issue for me as a T1....
 
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