Pretty good reason from my perspective - it makes me violently throw upIndy51, interest continues in N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine (NAC)...
Can't remember, was there a reason why you shouldn't take it?
This morning announced on radio 4 that v significant % deaths have had diabetes. Not specified whether type 1 or 2 or whether linked with medication types, body type (obese or overweight) levels of fitness. Interested to know more any links please??Very little has been said about the particular risks of Coronavirus to PWD.
We often read that the risk of death with Coronavirus is "only" 2%, with critical illness about 10%
But then we read that most of those suffering serious effects have pre-existing conditions.
80% have a pre-existing condition.
In effect, if you have a pre-existing condition then the risk of death is increased to around 10%; risk of critical illness increased to around 40% if you "catch" Coronavirus. The medical term for these increases in morbidity (death rates) is comorbidity.
Medical papers have been written on the prime condition which creates concern and we can read them by searching for Coronavirus Comorbid. Trouble is that COVID 2019 is too new for particular research papers to have been written - however we get a fairly accurate picture by looking at two "older", more researched Coronaviruses, SARS and MERS. These are very similar to COVID, indeed many medical professionals objected to the name COVID, saying that it should be called SARS2 as they are so similar.
We can find out just what those pre-existing conditions are - and which is the prime concern.
It is Diabetes - both T1 & T2
http://grantome.com/grant/NIH/F32-A..._fnGoJI-mnOb_gcQ0k6JbZtaPojB2JYc5NUCo-w67PZH4
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6824443/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6357155/
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/factsheet-health-professionals-coronaviruses
https://asprtracie.hhs.gov/technical-resources/44/coronavirus-sars-mers-2019-ncov/27
Those links you quoted are all from my post of 13 weeks ago with most being papers concerning COVID outbreaks up to 18 yrs ago.This morning announced on radio 4 that v significant % deaths have had diabetes. Not specified whether type 1 or 2 or whether linked with medication types, body type (obese or overweight) levels of fitness. Interested to know more any links please??
This morning announced on radio 4 that v significant % deaths have had diabetes. Not specified whether type 1 or 2 or whether linked with medication types, body type (obese or overweight) levels of fitness. Interested to know more any links please??
Update. Price of the Medichecks antibody test has reduced to £69. I complained and have been told that those who purchased at the higher price will be refunded the difference.
@Brunneria, I agree with you that the fact that 25% of Covid-19 deaths had diabetes is not surprising.it is in no way surprising that approx 25% of C-19 deaths are people with diabetes.
The majority of C-19 deaths are over 60yrs, and the % of the population with diabetes is around 25% at that age and above.
I would actually go so far as to say that this piece of information counts as ‘fake news’ and is only being spread by journalists who are too ignorant of the subject to make any sensible contribution to the debate.
https://diabetes-resources-producti...igration/pdf/DiabetesUK_Facts_Stats_Oct16.pdf
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@Brunneria, I agree with you that the fact that 25% of Covid-19 deaths had diabetes is not surprising.
However, you read the table - which I was actually looking for (thanks) - incorrectly. It is not that ~25% of 60 to 69 and 70 to 79 year olds have diabetes, but that 25% of all diabetics are between 60 and 69 and another 25% from 70 to 79.
The total number of diabetics in the UK is about 4 million 6%, so about 1 million are between 60 and 69. I quickly checked the population pyramid and about 11% of the population (~7 million) are between 60 and 69, so about one in 7 or 14% have diabetes in that age group. I discussed this in more detail in my thread, see
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/covid-coronavirus-and-diabetes-the-numbers.174274/
Just watched it.. Hasn't really answered any of the questions around contributing factors along with diabetes.. And therefore the risk if diabetes is the only comorbidity. Tried to a bit on one slide but it was actually tied up with hypertension and was all a bit contradictory and confusing . Will await partha kar's analysis with interestThere is a talk on Covid and diabetes streaming right now on the virtual PHC conference. It will also be available later.
Editing to say it includes a meta analysis of evidence about the relationship between diabetes and Covid outcomes.
I take a anti coagulant (blood thinner) called Xaralto, so should have that theory covered.Could that make some diabetics more susceptible to the blood clots, and therefore at greater risk?
Thanks for this good viewing but again doesn't tell us anything we didn't know. Are type 2 diabetics more at risk because they are diabetic or because of the associated comorbidities.. We simply still don't know. Hopefully partha kar's breakdown gives us a better insight@Jamie H
This one isn’t all about covid but there’s a very interesting section early on which I think is much clearer about the interplay between diabetes - and specifically type 2 and insulin resistance- other co-morbidities and covid.
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