What difference does it make if someone has an underlying condition or they are over 60? Dead is dead. If they had not caught Covid they may well have lived for a lot longer. You can't just write off people or accept their demise because of those things. A vaccine (which is what we were discussing, even though we have gone slightly off subject), could well prolong those lives?
Yes, I agree that many people may have people have suffered due to lockdown and may have missed out diagnosis and early treatment (doubt all 1000 of them were due to that though). And again, a vaccine would help to alleviate these problems and get us back to 'normal'.
Finally, I totally concur, I have said previously, what we need is conversation and debate based on actual facts (just not ridiculous theories).
Please don't be disingenuous and even hint that I am writing anybody off. That appears to be a veiled way of shaming me and shutting down discussion.
Nobody is denying that the disease, covid-19, is new but coronoviruses are not. This virus will run it's course, as many, many run their course for millennia. Lockdowns and masks will not stop it's spread. That's not me saying that, have a look around the internet.
Caution, personal responsibility, shielding the vulnerable and elderly is and should have been the way to combat this virus. If we'd done that more people may well have lived longer. The proportion of healthy people under 65 dying is tiny.
A rushed-through, ill-tested vaccine is what people want but it may well not be the right approach. I'll repeat, to shut out the concerns of scientists and medics is morally wrong. Not just for them but for all of us.
'Following the science' says the establishment. But are they really?
There is just too much contra information out there to ignore. In fact, why not take a few minutes to read this.
I've highlighted this article, which is one of hundreds, because it also contains
The Great Barrington Declaration which is authored by three professors from Oxford, Harvard and Stanford and endorsed by 44,000 clinicians, scientists and public health experts.
This is not something dreamed up by 'Karen' on the internet. These are real people on the front line of medicine and research.
If there was just David Icke yelling from a rooftop then we'd be justified in ignoring him. But it's not.
Frankly, I want this to be all done and dusted as much as anyone else but I am becoming increasingly concerned about our appoach and the strategy of the powers that be.