dealing with a husband newly diagnosed

rockwidow

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Hi
My husband was diagnosed type 2 in January. He had to immediately start Metformin due to HbA1C of 96. I am struggling to accept this as I am so angry with my GP who diagnosed him 3 years ago with IGT and did nothing to help him and did not arrange any follow up, however water under the bridge we have to move on. He is coping with the metformin on the whole, he still has some grumbly tummy problems. He is loosing weight really well and thats a good thing as he does have a lot of weight to loose, he has mentioned on numerous occasions that he feels cold and his hands in particular are cold, I hope this is just due to his weight loss (he has dropped nearly 2 trouser sizes since January) but I would really like to know if anybody has any experience of something similar. He mentioned it to the nurse at his last visit but all she asked me was " well he has feeling in his feet doesnt he?" (I am a diabetes specialist podiatrist so his feet are okay) and its not his feet that are cold. Any suggestions would be appreciated thank you
 
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Hi, just wanted to say hello and welcome to the forum :)

Best wishes RRB
 

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@rockwidow

Hello and welcome to the forum :) I can't answer your specific questions although other members will be along soon to help, but I can give you some general information for new members which I hope you will find useful and help you to help your husband. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to answer you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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rockwidow

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Thanks for that info Daisy1 we have been given very little dietary info but are going on the DESMOND session next week. Interestingly the change we have made is to reduce our carbohydrate intake but once you start looking you find carbs hidden in all the unlikely places!
 
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Lazybones

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Firstly welcome to the forum. It sound like with your help in the background, your husband is heading in the right direction by firstly reducing his weight, which will help him in reducing his blood/Glucose average levels.
It's good news that he has become accustomed to the metformin, as this is generally the first line of medication that we Type 2 diabetics are prescribed to help reduce our average blood/glucose levels.
As the principle meal provider I would suggest that you spend some time looking through this site for diet recommendations and suggestion for Type 2 diabetes. Many on here advocate the LCHF (Low Carbohydrate High Fat Diet) diet and have had spectacular results by using it.
As for your husbands cold hand it's worth keeping an eye on this, as it's more common for the feet to experience coldness than in the hands and fingers, and might be the first sign of changes occurring within his circulation.
If you have any question however simple it may at first seem, then please ask, as there is usually someone here on this site that has experienced it.
 
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phil1966

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I feel the cold far more than I did before I was diagnosed (particularly in my hands and feet) but it's not something I've worried about too much (my blood sugars are great now and my foot and eye tests came back all clear)

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Bluetit1802

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Hello and welcome from me,

He has done well to drop 2 sizes since January. That is a great achievement.

Yes, low carb is the way to go, with enough extra fats to keep the hunger at bay. Many of the hidden carbs that you mention are in low fat products, which is why it is usually better to go for the real thing (and better for you, too). When looking at food labels, look for the total carb content, not the "of which sugars".

Has he got his own blood glucose meter? If not, I suggest strongly that he gets one. With this he can learn which foods his pancreas can deal with, and which it can't. We are all different in which carbs we can cope with, and how many. A meter will tell him what he can manage by testing before and after eating, and looking at the rise after that food. If you need more information about this, just ask, but a meter will be your best friend for a long time.
 
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rockwidow

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Thank you all so much it is so nice to have people who take the time to answer and advise. We do have a meter and wont have a problem getting strips and lancets for it. I have been reading a lot about low carb/high fat approach
 
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Hi and welcome. Yes, adopt a low-carb diet. It's possible the feeling cold may be due to some circulation problems due to the high blood sugar. This often correct itself over time as blood suagr comes down. Be aware that Metformin only has a small effect on blood sugar whereas diet is key. If the blood sugar doesn't go down but the weight loss continues, do come back as occasionally a different diagnosis is relevant.
 
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rockwidow

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His blood sugars are now in single figures they were randoms of between 15 and 19 at diagnosis. It amazes me that what we both thought (without ever looking into it) that logically carbs were the enemy, It seems that is the thoughts of everybody i just dont understand why the NHS is advising otherwise?
 

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I feel the cold far more than I did before I was diagnosed (particularly in my hands and feet) but it's not something I've worried about too much (my blood sugars are great now and my foot and eye tests came back all clear)

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Welcome to the forum :)

Welcome to our forum
Phils post is spot on I defiantly feel the cold more in my feet and hands more now
 
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Daibell

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His blood sugars are now in single figures they were randoms of between 15 and 19 at diagnosis. It amazes me that what we both thought (without ever looking into it) that logically carbs were the enemy, It seems that is the thoughts of everybody i just dont understand why the NHS is advising otherwise?
Hi and good news. There are far too many vested interests by big pharma and the food industry with many research departments and professionals funded by these organisations resulting in the crazy NHS diet advice jn my opinion.
 
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Hi h& welcome.
You'll be helping your OH on the road to controlling the condition in no time at all now your in a place of understanding & knowledge.
 

Paul59

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Hi and good news. There are far too many vested interests by big pharma and the food industry with many research departments and professionals funded by these organisations resulting in the crazy NHS diet advice in my opinion.
So basically the Nhs is controlled by money not common sense.