Dealing with a know it all non-diabetic

Karenchq · Jul 11, 2016

It is funny, but it is not I am type 1 and recently had a conversation with a well meaning know it all non-diabetic who insisted that I must take insulin not carbs when I am low. Of course, there is always the you can't eat sugar discussion. I tried to explain that I could have carbs and need them when I am low, but she assured me that she was right and I was completely ignorant of what I was talking about. What kind if experiences do others have with this type of expert advice ?

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BeccyB · Jul 11, 2016

I'd tell her that if you were wrong you would be dead by now and that you're pretty sure you're not!

Robinredbreast · Jul 11, 2016

Karenchq said:
It is funny, but it is not I am type 1 and recently had a conversation with a well meaning know it all non-diabetic who insisted that I must take insulin not carbs when I am low. Of course, there is always the you can't eat sugar discussion. I tried to explain that I could have carbs and need them when I am low, but she assured me that she was right and I was completely ignorant of what I was talking about. What kind if experiences do others have with this type of expert advice ?

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I would of said, why don't you shut the flip up, you have no idea what you are talking about, I would be dead if I had Insulin, you moron !! also
'There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation can't cure' makes me so

KevinPotts · Jul 11, 2016

Robinredbreast said:
I would of said, why don't you shut the flip up, you have no idea what you are talking about, I would be dead if I had Insulin, you moron !! also
'There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation can't cure' makes me so

Calm down calm down... You'll do yourself a mischief

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Robinredbreast · Jul 11, 2016

KevinPotts said:
Calm down calm down... You'll do yourself a mischief

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That's nothing Kevin, my life could actually end because of crass stupidity and ignorance. I hope to have a few more decades left

Robinredbreast · Jul 11, 2016

Karenchq said:
It is funny, but it is not I am type 1 and recently had a conversation with a well meaning know it all non-diabetic who insisted that I must take insulin not carbs when I am low. Of course, there is always the you can't eat sugar discussion. I tried to explain that I could have carbs and need them when I am low, but she assured me that she was right and I was completely ignorant of what I was talking about. What kind if experiences do others have with this type of expert advice ?

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Not so well meaning, just stupidity, with no concept of how it could actually kill someone
Stupid is, stupid does

azure · Jul 11, 2016

Karenchq said:
It is funny, but it is not I am type 1 and recently had a conversation with a well meaning know it all non-diabetic who insisted that I must take insulin not carbs when I am low. Of course, there is always the you can't eat sugar discussion. I tried to explain that I could have carbs and need them when I am low, but she assured me that she was right and I was completely ignorant of what I was talking about. What kind if experiences do others have with this type of expert advice ?

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Correct them forcefully! Verbally, of course.

Not only must it have been really aggravating for you to hear that, it's potentially dangerous information and who knows who else that person is miseducating.

I heard someone say that on local,radio once so I phoned up and insisted they issue a correction!

I'm sure I'm not the only person on insulin who fears being 'helped' by such an ignorant member of the public if I were ever to have a bad hypo.

If it was me, I'd print out some info from the internet and shove it in her face. I'd also explain that if that wasn't enough proof for her, then she could check any other medical site or, indeed, ask a diabetes charity or a first aid charity.

noblehead · Jul 11, 2016

Karenchq said:
It is funny, but it is not I am type 1 and recently had a conversation with a well meaning know it all non-diabetic who insisted that I must take insulin not carbs when I am low. Of course, there is always the you can't eat sugar discussion. I tried to explain that I could have carbs and need them when I am low, but she assured me that she was right and I was completely ignorant of what I was talking about. What kind if experiences do others have with this type of expert advice ?

Agree with @azure, print something off from the net and show her how wrong she is.

The media is partially to blame for people's misconceptions as drama's/soaps often get the story-line wrong and say that a type 1 character needs an insulin injection when hypo..............

Lamont D · Jul 11, 2016

I'm sorry, I opened my mouth!

On a serious note, I have to carry medical information and have a necklace that is for health care providers, as I'm often been treated like a T1, when I have had hypos in my doctors and hospital!
But I get the gist of your rant!

Jaylee · Jul 11, 2016

Robinredbreast said:
I would of said, why don't you shut the flip up, you have no idea what you are talking about, I would be dead if I had Insulin, you moron !! also
'There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation can't cure' makes me so

"Reincarnation"..? Not everyone subscribes to that belief system. Would diabetes or any ailments in the state of "samsara" not be cured only when finding Nirvana..?

Nevermind...

Robinredbreast · Jul 11, 2016

Jaylee said:
"Reincarnation"..? Not everyone subscribes to that belief system. Would diabetes or any ailments in the state of "samsara" not be cured only when finding Nirvana..?

Nevermind...

Not diabetes Jaylee, the person who's a know it all, but actually knows diddly squat. Hope that clears that up

Tanny35 · Jul 11, 2016

azure said:
Correct them forcefully! Verbally, of course.

Not only must it have been really aggravating for you to hear that, it's potentially dangerous information and who knows who else that person is miseducating.

I heard someone say that on local,radio once so I phoned up and insisted they issue a correction!

I'm sure I'm not the only person on insulin who fears being 'helped' by such an ignorant member of the public if I were ever to have a bad hypo.

If it was me, I'd print out some info from the internet and shove it in her face. I'd also explain that if that wasn't enough proof for her, then she could check any other medical site or, indeed, ask a diabetes charity or a first aid charity.

I often worry about people giving me insulin in the case of a bad hypo too.
Some of my own family members (my brother for example) still doesn't understand the jist of it all, and that is after having it for 30 years - and it is so important to get it the right way round - as it really is a matter of life and death!

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Jaylee · Jul 11, 2016

Robinredbreast said:
Not diabetes Jaylee, the person who's a know it all, but actually knows diddly squat. Hope that clears that up

Ah, I see.. I'm all apologies.

In that case I would be inclined to play the lounge act & stay away. Maybe let em play dumb.? Don't let it drain you?
you know you're right.!

Be a little curt with them..

zand · Jul 11, 2016

Oh that silly person is a type zero then....

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/type-0-diabetes.57779/

Diakat · Jul 11, 2016

I sent the first aiders at work an e-mail saying "you will NEVER need to give me insulin"

Dark Horse · Jul 11, 2016

Show them this:-
http://www.pennine-gp-training.co.uk/res/Diabetes - Having a Hypo.pdf

Karenchq · Jul 12, 2016

Diakat said:
I sent the first aiders at work an e-mail saying "you will NEVER need to give me insulin"

Excellent - I shall follow your lead and send the same message to my friends and people I work with.

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therower · Jul 12, 2016

Robinredbreast said:
I would of said, why don't you shut the flip up, you have no idea what you are talking about, I would be dead if I had Insulin, you moron !! also
'There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation can't cure' makes me so

I'm sorry but " shut the flip up" just wouldn't be enough for me. I think situations like this demand fire and brimstone along with a promise that if aforementioned expert ever came near me with anything resembling an injection pen I would stick it right in her glutus maximus.

chalup · Jul 12, 2016

Tanny35 said:
I often worry about people giving me insulin in the case of a bad hypo too.
Some of my own family members (my brother for example) still doesn't understand the jist of it all, and that is after having it for 30 years - and it is so important to get it the right way round - as it really is a matter of life and death!

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Basic level first aid here in Canada that is a requirement for many jobs has a section about diabetes. They stress that if you know someone is diabetic and acting drunk or off to treat for a low and offer sugar if they are conscious. They stress that you will not hurt someone if their sugars are high but could save a life if they are low. The key to it all is to educate as many people as possible. We have commercials on TV that tell you what to do for heart attack or stroke but not hypoglycemia. Maybe we should have those too.

ickihun · Jul 12, 2016

Diakat said:
I sent the first aiders at work an e-mail saying "you will NEVER need to give me insulin"

So did I. Especially during my pregnancy days.
One have a go hero couldnt wait to inject me and my baby.

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