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Dear judgemental person

AdamJames said:
I think I've got full house now, thanks to an 'agree' from @bulkbiker! That works for me on so many levels Thanks BB!
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Pleasure.. I read through it and although I'm not sure I have experienced all those things I'm pretty sure I would agree with your sentiments If I had.
And I'm b****y sure I've never climbed Snowdon!

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Thank you, @AdamJames, for getting off your chest everything I've ever thought when someone has judged me in the same way. I might just let fly next time. You're an inspiration.
 
I. came across these same judgmental people, criticising my body weight, my T2, my lack of effort to lose weight, to be 'normal', to be ' healthy', getting frustrated in my life choices, to do more, to accept that I would never be fit again, to accept that the diabetes was a life sentence. And on top of that, every one them agreed, that the eighteen stone, the 40" waistline, the high glucose readings, the continuous horrible symptoms, the sleep deprivation, the anxiety, the desperation of being unable to live with the diabetes, the loss of work and it was just going to get worse.
These people, these so called excuses for a tolerant society, caring for those that need it, the lack of clear dietary advice, the total ignorance of how diabetes should be treated.
These people, who all had very good education and are paid to help, advise and treat these conditions to try and get the patient back to health by understanding what the hell is going on and never treat us all the same, we are all different!
These people, which includes doctors, one a diabetic specialist, dsns, health care providers, dieticians, and one endocrinologist all thought I had T2 diabetes and assumed for over a decade that I had diabetes and everything they said I should do was causing more damage to my health and my mind.

I was due a rant!
Apologies to those really good doctors, dsns and specialists who have discovered that something as simple as dietary advice can work, it's not only sugar, it's carbs!
 
@AdamJames Sorry, to get a full house you need a sister/brother like mine although I am not sure she is on the list!

I am a T2 who always watched my weight, not by the scales but by refusing to buy bigger jeans. However, I agree to all the other sins. Too little sleep, poor (well abysmal) diet, stressful job etc. When I was diagnosed and the dietary advice didn't work I got on here and started low carbing. When I next went out to (pub) lunch with my sister and couldn't eat anything on the menu she said "I know loads of diabetics and they don't make the fuss you do. Why don't you just eat whet you want and die sooner".
 
Where is the shocked and stunned emoji.?. she sounds like a right charmer...
 
The original post by @AdamJames: I don't think I have ever before read such an eloquent outpouring of searing pain and anger. Other posters have shown that it has truly touched something inside them, as it has done for me, and I can only echo their responses. All I would add is that, if you are hurt by unthinking, ignorant, uncaring comments, come into this Forum and read words of comfort and empathy (for the most part I might add) - they have certainly helped me.

Ooh, a full house - well deserved!
 
One of the things I like about this forum is how the light and the heavy go together when possible. I'm sure @AdamJames had smoke coming out of his ears when starting this thread and ended up chuckling about his full house an hour later. So he did win something with his full house: a good mood! And so did I, and I didn't even win.
I also like how the heavyish subject is still adressed in earnest at the same time as the joking about it. This happens quite often on this forum and it makes me feel at home. Thanks for that, folks!
 
As I lie down to relieve my back pain after seeing my great GP and his practice staff and not before taking home a treat for the kids who didn't want me going out in the rain this morning. I read a few posts on the forum.
A forum where people come for support and none judgemental hugs and rational comments.
Home. Home to the diabetic family who are outcasts in small minded people's hearts.
The shock is the upset was caused by one of our own sufferers. Who should know better? Or should they?

Its pretty shocking how type1s normally get their diagnosis. Normally after dka.
Its very very fast paced and a very dangerous time of their life.

You can never compare a type1 diagnosis to a type2 diagnosis. And that's just the start of the shock.

Be honest... If type2s can be cured by not eating rubbish (carbs) then most type1s would jump at the chance.
So of course they think type2s are lazy, why does it take them so long when a type1 would love not to take insulin ever again? They'd jump through that hoop eleven fold.

I cannot cure my type2 like everyone claims is just diet control stopping it.
If type2s assume fellow type2s are just being lazy then neither wonder some type1s do too.

Some type2s cannot reverse their diabetes but now all type1s think we can!

Sometimes our own critics tells others that it's self induced.
Many haven't self harmed themselves into type2.

I think the more psychologist get involved the better. To support poor eaters who have emotions attached to food. The minority once carb cravings are controlled and understood.

More is to be revealed about type2 as how did I get it at 6yr old when it apparently takes years of bad eating?
No diabetics in my family tree. Heart failure at a young age, yes; but not diabetes. Unless it was hidden?
 
ickihun said:
Some type2s cannot reverse their diabetes but now all type1s think we can!
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I certainly don’t - but I never even knew it could be reversed until reading the stories of people here And I had even less idea I could reverse some of my own complications by following a similar way of eating.

But it’s a similar attitude to those people who watch the Paralympic Games and assume that any person in a wheelchair could become an international elite athlete if they just tried hard enough. Every body is different.
 
See, from gloomy start to very pleasing end. And thats at the end well controlled diabetes, despite “Judgemental Person” outside of our world And maybe new record for this side...
 
Hi. You sound very much like a mis-diagnosed T1 and not T2 at all? Did you ever have any tests for T1?
 
Daibell said:
Hi. You sound very much like a mis-diagnosed T1 and not T2 at all? Did you ever have any tests for T1?
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Diagnosis is severe case of insulin resistance. I take 300units of insulin per day. Enough to kill a horse, never mind a woman. Luckily with triple strength basal the a&e nurses don't worry about my doses so much.
Many nurses would refuse to give that kind of dose to a woman who is yes overweight but not as big as her counter-parts awaiting bariatric surgery. However, I need it to stay awake and function.
For now.
After bariatric surgery and my back problem resolved I should be on at least half.
I'd reduced my insulin on low carb but inherited more health problems of the none diabetes kind so I try and fulfil all my health problems til a huge revision after large weight loss.

Diabetes isn't my only health condition which needs managing.
I do what I can but staying mobile is my biggest concern due to suspected bulging discs.
I love low carbing as it has given me refreshed hope for change to my fitness levels whilst partly immobile.
Low carbing is brilliant for liver health, bg health and mental health.
I'm working on financial health. Ha ha

Yes low carbing can be done on low income but supplements have to be the priority. Then food.
Anaemia has taught me that.
 
I like seeing all the smileys on your post. I have contributed an "optimistic" because I like the rainbow and I don't get to use it much.

I am sorry that somebody made you feel bad about not eating a salad, as a person who really really likes salad I promise we are not all pretending to like it just to be healthy! I like the taste and am not eating it to spite everybody else
 
@Daibell I havent had a C-peptide result confirmed but obesity is where my specialist is concentrating on. Even if I'm a type1 I'm still hugely obese and severely insulin resistant so bariatric surgery is still a solution.
Before being given discharged in the future I won't be going without a GAD result or C-peptide result.
Thank you for helping me get the right diagnosis.
In my favour I have never had dka nor close to one so hospital haven't concerned themselves.
Ive eaten a high protein diet all my life, rather than a high carb one.
Before low carbing I was more muscle than fat but now I'm looking 50/50.
My weight loss came from muscle as I haven't been able to exercise.
I still produce more fat than I can burn. Low carb has to come with low fat for me to lose weight and still doesn't resolve immobility.
GP has referred me for mobility investigation. Appointment on the 24th of this month. It cannot come soon enough.

GP, I think, feels insulin therapy hasn't helped with weight loss and he's right but my alternative was to rot. Which he wouldn't allow that to happen. His referral to my endo has saved my life and my extremities.

Better fat and alive than not fat and dead. A decision which is only temporary.
Not fat and on low carb with supplements and far less insulin is my aim.
I won't be distracted from that.

Bariatric surgery without low carb education is the biggest flaw of the nhs but I'm going to prove even HUGELY longterm IR sufferers CAN immensely improve their status.
How can I lose?
Mobility will be the icing on the low carb cake!
 
@AdamJames I agree with @phdiabetic. I once enjoyed salad once I got used to it's variations and added radishes and beetroot etc. However mine ended up very carb filled and I started overeating on that.
Any carbs for me nurtured carb cravings, even on salad or veg. I have to limit both enjoyments to not overeat.
Ive always preferred milky coffee to espresso. I'm a latte girl. Skinny or otherwise.
Its all in the carb content.... in everything.

Maybe in yrs to come type2s will have more pre- prepared low carb foods available and not at a rip-off price, neither?
I'd like to see frozen leek sheeted beef lasagne or any prepared food. More low carb ice cream and more low carb filling salad bowls.
I'm hoping our children's future is lower carb!
 

I would love to try that lasagne, I really like pasta but don't eat it much since I only get small portions and end up being hungry later. Would love to try leek+beef lasagne!!

I always ate salad, even before I was diabetic I would take a small bag of cherry tomatoes or cucumber slices to school for a snack. These days my usual salad is cucumber+shallots, with a tomato or two thrown in and occasionally carrot.
 
I was given too many fresh tomatoes as we grew them. I'm soooooo sick of fresh tomatoes. I think I'm off them, for life. I prefer beetroot but not very carb friendly either.
Only salad I like at mo is iceburg lettuce. I use it as wrap replacements or for cheesy dips, for a treat. I'm trying to avoid cheese. I only like red Leicester, at mo thou. Anything nutty is to my liking.
 
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Here I am going on about pasta, and for the first time in maybe years I just had some pasta for dinner! Parents were having some and I decided I'd have a bit, absolutely heavenly. Of course I also had some salad (My third salad for the day!)

I like beetroot, and lettuce! Had a bit of cheese with aforementioned pasta but I don't eat cheese on its own very often. Not so keen on nuts, apart from peanuts - I eat a lot of peanut butter My mum loves almonds especially, she likes nuts. I like to tell her, "you are what you eat"
 
Hi again. Thanks for your reply. You're obviously struggling to get the right balance but by low-carbing where you can you are doing the right thing food wise. My wife struggles to keep weight down compared with me as her metabolism is much lower than mine. If we eat the same food on holiday (not low-carb) she gains weight twice as fast as me. She has to almost starve herself together with low-carb to maintain a good weight; very frustrating for her. I claim she absorbs nutrients from the air!
 
phdiabetic said:
I like seeing all the smileys on your post. I have contributed an "optimistic" because I like the rainbow and I don't get to use it much.
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Haha! It just made me laugh now looking at all the smileys, I love it! Thank you for your contribution, and thanks to everyone for picking random smileys to get the full house! I don't know if it should be as satisfying as it is, but it just is

phdiabetic said:
I am sorry that somebody made you feel bad about not eating a salad, as a person who really really likes salad I promise we are not all pretending to like it just to be healthy! I like the taste and am not eating it to spite everybody else
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Absolutely. I think in my rant mode I was slipping into and out of sarcasm a bit too freely, and the result is the message was blurred.

I absolutely believe that people genuinely love salads, and would rather have one than burger and chips. Just as I absolutely believe that other people would prefer burger and chips to a salad. That's why I have such a problem with judgmentalism: Why should one person become self-righteous just because the thing they *want* to eat happens to be healthy? Surely they should just be very grateful for their lucky tastebuds!?

I don't generally find salads to be satisfying, certainly not as a main meal. But I do have a ton of salad "stuff" these days: celery, spinach, tomatoes, peppers, mixed leaves etc. Not a single one of those things 'does it for me' in terms of taste, but I do eat a lot of them, and use them to 'pad out' a small amount of the food I really like, to make a nutritious and filling meal. E.g. if I'm going to have one small slice of toasted low-carb bread with pate, then rather than have it as a snack, I'll make it into a meal by piling the plate with low-carb salady stuff. Which I generally eat first, so I can finish on what I like!
 
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