There appear to be multiple mechanisms for doing so though. Diet, exercise, stasis.The topic is exercise perhaps prolonging the honey moon period perhaps that's why some diets haven't been mentioned? (Yes, I know I mentioned low carbing myself but that was as a question to someone who described the pancreas spewing out insulin whenever it felt like it.)
Re the higher prevalence of eating disorders amongst those with T1...surely that's because T1s have an extra tool they can use (or not use!) to lose weight?
Re "Change it", that's what T2s have to do, yet folk generally think that T2s love their food too much.
Interesting! I never see a rise when I run or train with weights, but quite often do after staggering a mile home uphill carrying a heavy rucsac full of groceries.Stress hormones perhaps, cortisol and or adrenalin raise bloods and can happen during exercise when you push past your 'comfort zone'.
My understanding is that in LADA the person may limp on sometimes for years producing little insulin but not quite little enough for insulin to be prescribed, though maybe it ought to be.the honeymoon phase tends to follow a type 1 diagnosis, it comes after insulin therapy has started
I accept your general point, that regimes have to be personalised and what doesn't work for one may be fine for another. However, since this group was not testing after meals, no-one can really know the effect their carbs were having on them.No one was using a CGM so all results we shared were from BG meters and testing was done upon waking, before meals/driving/exercise and before bed so we were unable to see spikes. However it was perfectly clear to me that whilst some could eat normally and manage their insulin to suit, I alone, was the exception
Alexandra, what exactly are you honeymooning from, in the absence of any diagnosis?
As I have said before, you are at liberty to live your life in your own chosen way, but your posts can be misleading.
I accept your general point, that regimes have to be personalised and what doesn't work for one may be fine for another. However, since this group was not testing after meals, no-one can really know the effect their carbs were having on them.
My understanding is that in LADA the person may limp on sometimes for years producing little insulin but not quite little enough for insulin to be prescribed, though maybe it ought to be.
Sorry, no, but to reply to you I have to think and write carefully and at some length and I haven't the time right now. I shouldn't be posting at all, but I fall to temptation. TBH I've said it all a few times before and I'm getting a bit fed up with repeating myself.@Alexandra100 - I can only assume you missed my post in your flurry of recent activity?
No, I mean I want to know about Scott's barmaid not a deadly pizza!
What this topic completely ignores is the other dietary approach to significantly improving management as put forward by "MangoMan", which pushes a vegan, mainly raw, low fat diet. And seems to be very successful too in managing T1D (and by all accounts T2D). That doesn't mean that low carb is wrong. It just demonstrates that there is more than one approach that seems to work effectively (although all at first appear to be relatively extreme).
As has been discussed many times on the forum before, food is not only a treatment. It's a social and mental paradigm and simply stating "Change it" is a great deal harder for most than words imply. If this wasn't the case, there wouldn't be the significantly higher prevalence of eating disorders amongst those with T1D than the normal population.
Who knows? Many would argue low carb was a leap of faith until studies were put forward....Just checked out the testimonials on Cyrus's page.
There is one from a Type 2 who has "dropped metphormin(sic) by half and insulin by half, and mostly I believe that within five more months of this, I will be completely off all medication."
And one Type 1 Who was newly diagnosed so can't really draw any conclusions..
https://www.mangomannutrition.com/testimonials/
the rest all seem to be trainers or athletes or others who lose weight by following a WFPB way of eating but that's hardly surprising if they were eating SAD beforehand...
As well as from the constant prompts to "subscribe" I find this a bit surprising.. he makes claims but so far as I know has never published anything (unless I have missed it) there certainly doesn't appear any links to any publications from his site.
So does it work or not? Seems more like a leap of faith than say a Virta study.
Just checked out the testimonials on Cyrus's page.
There is one from a Type 2 who has "dropped metphormin(sic) by half and insulin by half, and mostly I believe that within five more months of this, I will be completely off all medication."
And one Type 1 Who was newly diagnosed so can't really draw any conclusions..
https://www.mangomannutrition.com/testimonials/
the rest all seem to be trainers or athletes or others who lose weight by following a WFPB way of eating but that's hardly surprising if they were eating SAD beforehand...
As well as from the constant prompts to "subscribe" I find this a bit surprising.. he makes claims but so far as I know has never published anything (unless I have missed it) there certainly doesn't appear any links to any publications from his site.
So does it work or not? Seems more like a leap of faith than say a Virta study.[/QUO
As you say raw food veganism is not a proven way to treat type 1 . He has published some mice studies related to calorie restriction.
There is a video here in which he discusses his fantastic insulin sensitivity. He only injects 1 unit for 27 grams of carb (average is 1:10):
However he doesn't really discuss his diet prior to this so it is hard to assess why he chose veganism and raw veganism at that. I am sure he gets lots of micronutrients that many on the SAD do not get but personally I could not eat 6 bananas for lunch!
people like Richard Bernstein and Ian Lake who point out the near impossibility of getting under 7s whilst eating higher carb (I am talking about Time in Range and not swinging from hypos to hyper then getting a mean average of under 7).
If you are interested in a low carb vegan diet this woman is worth listening to: https://www.biohackerslab.com/ep48-dr-carrie-diulus/Who knows? Many would argue low carb was a leap of faith until studies were put forward....
I often have to supplement protein, as I’m allergic to meat and dairy, and can’t always get enough fish and eggs down my neck. I use pea protein, as most cheap ones are made with milk whey - it can get quite expensive!This woman is worth listening to: https://www.biohackerslab.com/ep48-dr-carrie-diulus/
I have listened to a few interviews with her. She does come across as non-fanatical. One of my objections to her regime is that it involves various hard-to-get, expensive protein sources and supplements. Definitely a diet for a well-paid American. I'll stick with Morrisson's free range chicken legs.
I do sympathise. Given the limited range of the very low carb, I am always a little afraid I might develop an aversion to some of the foods I CAN eat. Fish and eggs in particular IMO one can easily have enough of.I often have to supplement protein, as I’m allergic to meat and dairy, and can’t always get enough fish and eggs down my neck. I use pea protein, as most cheap ones are made with milk whey - it can get quite expensive!
I only developed these allergies a couple of years ago, and do worry that I might start to react to the fish and eggs. It’s a proper allergy, not just an intolerance, I get quite severe breathing difficulties if I have meat and cow’s milk. I’m convinced my immune system hates me, it’s even thrown up a reaction to my favourite hair dyeI do sympathise. Given the limited range of the very low carb, I am always a little afraid I might develop an aversion to some of the foods I CAN eat. Fish and eggs in particular IMO one can easily have enough of.
OMG!!! I have heard that given time away from the allergen, sometimes the allergic reaction weakens. Do you think this is true?I only developed these allergies a couple of years ago, and do worry that I might start to react to the fish and eggs. It’s a proper allergy, not just an intolerance, I get quite severe breathing difficulties if I have meat and cow’s milk. I’m convinced my immune system hates me, it’s even thrown up a reaction to my favourite hair dye
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