diagnosed with type 2 today

lutonlady44

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Feeling a little stunned.. :!: :!: ........i was expecting to be told that i am pre-diabetic...had fasting blood tests of just 6.7 and 7.1...then a test result of 9.2 and then a glucose tolerance of 14....saw my nurse today who confirmed i am a type 2 diabetic and now will have the hb1 test...
i am female,49,overweight with a demanding career, demanding family,elderly father,long commute and am actually a chocolatier. :lol:
my sibling was diagnosed a few months ago after a yr of illness, my dad is mature onset, my mum died at 64 .
considering returnong to cambridge diet. Am i right in thinking diabetics can't do it?
have yo yo dieted all my life,was ideal weight four years ago...crave carbs!!
have i caused this?is it my fault?can i reverse this? do i sit an wallow?anyone else feel overwhelmed like this?is it normal? :(
 

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Here is some advice we hand out to newly diagnosed Diabetic's. The information should help you.

Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.

As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!
If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l........(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Ken / Sue
 

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The Cambridge diet is a weight loss plan I believe ? Will it help you to control your Diabetes and Bg levels ?
That's what you need to consider.

It is no good just losing weight if your Bg levels are not within acceptable ranges. Hopefully there may be some members who have actually used it.

However if you find that it works for you.........

Ken
 

lutonlady44

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Thank you for your replies!! :D
i need to digest the information.....i am a carb addict.. :| .

the cambridge diet is a meal replacement and relies on your body entering a state known as ketosis? am i right in thinking ketosis is not good for diabetics?
why am i so affected by this diagnosis....i now have the answer to my recent health problems and constant tiredness?should be reassured...is it because this is not something a quick fix will resolve?was i arrogant enough to believe because my older sibling(only 2yrs older)has been diagnosed that i would get away with it?
lot to get my head around..........
 

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From the FAQ's on the website..........

Can someone with diabetes be on the Cambridge Weight Plan?


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Cambridge programmes can now be used with care in people with Type 2 diabetes.

The support of the client’s/patient’s doctor and specialist nurse is essential.

The higher calorie programmes are used initially, with a gradual reduction dependent on response, and medication. Weight loss, and normalization of blood glucose levels can prove extremely beneficial. People with Type 1 diabetes may occasionally be helped with the Cambridge programmes, when medication changes and monitoring of blood glucose are supervised by health care professionals.

My emphasis in bold as I really know nothing but the basics of this diet. Personally I wouldn't pay for anything as I use a low GI/GL diet which suits me fine, allowed me to lose over 5 ½ st and keep excellent BG control. Just the cost of the ingredients, my time and effort. You have to decide what is good for you as we are definitely all different. What works for one may not work for others.

Ken
 

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Hi there,
I am 49 and was diagnosed type 2 in April with a bg of 13, this was down to 11 when I had my HB1 test because I altered my diet whilst waiting for the test to be done. I am very overweight but have lost 10 kgs. Yes, I felt overwhelmed too at diagnosis and by all the different information available.

Being a carb addict is a tough call when you have diabetes. I loved my pasta, rice and cakes before d day but found this forum and after a good read decided to give the lower carb diet a try.
Although really tough the first couple of weeks, you do adjust to it and the bonus is the bg levels will lower and you begin to feel better, some people have more energy even. Good for a hectic lifestyle.

The standard advice from Ken/Sue posted as a reply is really helpful. Do read the other forum topics too. Also have a look on the main page of this website for helpful info about diabetes, medication, diet etc.

Don't wait until you HB1 blood test to start making changes though. Start keeping a food diary, write down all you eat and drink, note the times, any reactions etc.(do you get really tired after eating anything in particular? - pasta sends me to sleep). If you can purchase a bg testing meter from your chemist you can start testing as well. When you see your GP for HB1 results you can then take your own results along and discuss them. Doing this helped me get my bg down to an average of 6.2 mml and I actually found this empowering. You do have to keep the bg levels until control which ever diet approach you take.

I don't know about the Cambridge diet, perhaps their website will give details of what the various products contain, you need to check the carb amounts. You can however, make many tasty low carb' meals, and you may find retraining your taste buds in this way will prevent the yo-yo dieting which must be so disappointing for you.


x K9kitty
 

lutonlady44

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thank you Ken and K9 Kitty...
what you say makes sense.... :evil:
i am used to either being on or off a diet.I lost 5st in four months with a very low calorie diet and kept the weight off for a good few years..but am now back to what i was...i am apple shaped...or like an m & m with arms and legs.. :lol: :lol: :lol: ..i detest the one pound on,one pound off regime with weight loss clubs but what i need to get my head around is that this is not a quick fix.....i can't fix this....but if i want to be full of energy once more, a sensible eating plan for life......
i like my nurse and my doc is a diabetes specialist...and a plain speaking scotsman so i could use them as weightloss advisors with no fees!!! :idea:
good advice about getting a grip on this now.......i do get sleepy with carbs but had not made the link....and now i drive home...a ninety minute journey, after a 9hr day....i need to be a lert!!!
thank you :!:
 

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Poor you working with choccies and being diagnosed T2.

I used to feel tired before my diagnosis but with carb control I seldom nod off. Kind of miss that. Red wine helps!

I have no problem losing weight, quite the reverse... but then I am on metformin as well. Maybe your doc will give you this... it is sort of a mixed blessing... I will let others here tell you why... but it helps some people lose weight. When prescribed you get the meds free and they should offer you a meter and strips free too. Self testing is essential.

I still eat carby stuff like spuds n rice etc but in much smaller amounts. With a meter you find out what is bad for your BG so you can adjust accordingly. It is as you say empowering.

ATB! 8)
 

lutonlady44

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thank you cowboy jim!!
i love my job.....but it will be difficult!! :lol: i react badly to diabetic choc. :lol: :lol: ..and i am actually more aware now of the correlation between what i eat and how i feel!! but since being diagnosed as a diabetic.....24hrs.....i feel like one!! today i went from 7am to 3pm without a meal and started to feel odd,and my vision was blurry.....ate a sandwich and had some juice,sat for fifteen mins........and felt sluggish all day... :(
off to land of cream teas and pasties,will have the hd1a test on return and then see what doctor says.... this is serious stuff......i have to take on board your advice...thank you....i am grateful....
 

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Hi,
I am a recent-ish diagnosed t2. I have lost over three and half stone with wright watchers.
I find it pretty easy, you have your point allowance and can "spend" it how you choose. I follow a reduced carb diet, but have no doubt it can be adapted to suit most diet types.
Good luck however you choose to manage it.
 

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As they will tell you here the Hba1c is the NHS benchmark but some feel it is too infrequent. It is yet another thing to worry the already worrisome DM person. You have to have faith... but IMHO there is always a niggle... what about the spikes in between? Self-testing is a help provided you don't get carried away with that. After all a key to dealing with DM is balance. You want to live as normal life as it is possible these days what with everything else to bother you every day.

Some days I have no appetite. My wife thinks I have a phobia about eating anything. This is a curious reaction. I ought to have sorted myself out by now because it has been a year since my diagnosis. But then it is quite a revelation that what you eat can harm you. In a society where we are fortunate to not lack for sustenance we are constantly beset by over-processed food. In a busy life it is not easy to achieve a balance and eat healthily.

I have bought recipe books but most are rubbish. There's always a hard to find ingredient etc. one I saw yesterday used not only the grill but a saucepan and oven to make a 'simple' breakfast of eggs on mushroom! Never mind the energy wasted or the washing up eh?

I make myself eat a little porridge and berries every morning. Simple microwave job. Then I take my metformin dose because it's easier on your guts. Then get some exercise. Then another breakfast - usually with eggs and meat and veg in the fry pan with a little oil. Tuna salad for lunch maybe. More met. Mid-afternoon fruit and yoghurt. Tea... well, I have to share that so... we had scampi last night and the guilt-ometer was in the red... more met and exercise.

Oh for a pastie... yum yum I miss pies! 8)
 

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Cowboyjim said:
I ought to have sorted myself out by now because it has been a year since my diagnosis. 8)

I think it took me 12 years to sort myself out, then I slipped for a year or 3.
Tried again and again and again.
As a T2 recently put onto insulin, I at last feel in control.
My diet is low-carb and tasty.
My daughter, who is a student, has spent a lot of this summer making new things for me to try, so the variety of what I eat has improved - gooseberry fool anyone?
My current meter averages are 6.2 for 7 days, 6.6 for 14 and 6.7 for 30, they have never been better.

Regarding chocolate, Green and Blacks 85%, Tescos finest Equadorian 85% are both very good, and I find that a few bits in the evening give me better test results in the morning.
Madagascan 85% is the best chocolate I've ever tasted, but I can't find a supplier in this country - so if anyone can help.....

Good luck