@Dillinger
Thank you for the comment and being on my sideThis happened a year ago and I'm now at different hospital. Even if I complained I don't think I have a case. Nhs thinks low carbing is unsafe for T1D but thank you for saying it. It means a lot to me.
I can appreciate they were concerned about my health but i was diagnosed with T1D only 2 months ago trying to cope. It was a bit heartless treatment and I'm angry I guess for what they've done
If you are diagnosed with mental illness including eating disorder, you lose you right as patient to refuse a treatment and make your own decisions about yourself. according to my internet research .... I don't have a family in this county to come and help me so it was especially difficult
Hi @asortafairytale
Thank u for the comments and your kind words.
I'm still on low carb diet because it works very well for me. I don't have craving for carbs and I have always been a large eater, I would find it more difficult to eat small portion of carbs than not eat at all.
I suffered from nasty hypos a lot pre-diagnosis (when I'm not on insulin) - maybe reactive hypoglycaemia from being on high carb diet ? Now on insulin and on Low carb diet I suffer from no hypos (maybe a few times below 4 above 3.5 a month). I just don't want to take more insulin to eat carb to worry about hypos. At moment I take 2 units of Novorapid for each meal. No carb counting, no hypo, no hyper, very easy.
This might change in the future and management becomes harder then I might reconsider my approach but for the time being its working very well.
I've been on low carb diet since my diagnosis in May last year. The diet works well for me and it is my informed choice.
My consultants and DN however were not supportive of my low carb diet. They gave me a diagnosis of suspected eating disorder and I was hospitalised for 4 days. I had to eat hospital's carb/sugar loaded food because otherwise they would not discharge me. I only found out about eating disorder diagnosis at discharge, explained in discharge letter. It was a horrible experience.
Ok, I was slightly underweight then because I lost some weight due to diabetes and I'm also naturally thin type but I didn't and don't have an eating disorder. I wouldn't be on low carb diet if I wasn't diabetic. I loved eating carbs before.
This happened in July last year. I've since changed consultant /DN.
I'm aware that NHS do not recommend low carb diet, especially for type 1s, but do you think doctors can classify T1s following low carb diet as having an eating disorder? That scares me. Or am I safe as long as I keep my weight in normal range.
In the UK, I don't believe you lose any rights, unless you are sectioned under the Mental Health Act. Patients who are not sectioned, retain their rights to consent, or refuse treatment and so on.
Quite some years ago, I was unwell enough, as a result of an eating disorder to require hospitalisation for several weeks. I was not sectioned at any time, and my treatment planning was shared with me at all stages and I was regularly asked to confirm my consent as things changed.
Eating disorders are classified as being a mental disorder under the Mental Health Act, but diagnosis doesn't automatically signal a sectioning.
The NHS summary guide to Sectioning under the Mental Health Act is here: http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutN...nder _The _Mental _Health _Act _Factsheet.pdf
Gosh, were your hypos just before diagnosis, or months or years before?
Many years before diagnosis. I mentioned it to GP but they didn't take much notice and seemed to think it's quite common.... my symptoms were quite bad then. Low carbing cured it. I was on high carb diet.
I think it only stopped completely after diagnosis and when I started low carb diet. Why do u ask ? To be honest, it is strange I had so long pre-diagnosis hypos and get type 1 but it's possible type 1 was very slow onset and giving me the hypos ...
Many years before diagnosis. I mentioned it to GP but they didn't take much notice and seemed to think it's quite common.... my symptoms were quite bad then. Low carbing cured it. I was on high carb diet.
That is absolutely disgraceful. Up to you how you try to manage your diabetes. Inflicting this nonsense on you amounts to abuse.I've been on low carb diet since my diagnosis in May last year. The diet works well for me and it is my informed choice.
My consultants and DN however were not supportive of my low carb diet. They gave me a diagnosis of suspected eating disorder and I was hospitalised for 4 days. I had to eat hospital's carb/sugar loaded food because otherwise they would not discharge me. I only found out about eating disorder diagnosis at discharge, explained in discharge letter. It was a horrible experience.
Ok, I was slightly underweight then because I lost some weight due to diabetes and I'm also naturally thin type but I didn't and don't have an eating disorder. I wouldn't be on low carb diet if I wasn't diabetic. I loved eating carbs before.
This happened in July last year. I've since changed consultant /DN.
I'm aware that NHS do not recommend low carb diet, especially for type 1s, but do you think doctors can classify T1s following low carb diet as having an eating disorder? That scares me. Or am I safe as long as I keep my weight in normal range.
@jacqfromdwed
Thank you for the comment. Yes that's why reason for my hospitalisation was "suspected" eating disorder.
@asortafairytale says indicator for eating disorder is not weight but whether the person is manipulating insulin or not. Then can people who choose to be on low carb /low insulin to manage good BS level be considered as manipulating insulin level. I think yes or no... ?
In my mind I'm very sure I don't have an eating disorder. I have diabetes and I'm just trying to manage diabetes the best I can in an easiest possible way for me. I don't care much about my body image (too old...). I like eating and enjoy eating, but I eat no obvious carbs (bead pasta rice potatoes etc). I eat lots of vegetables, fish meat eggs etc. I exercise daily to keep fit. I will make sure to keep my weight within normal.
I think the underlying issue for me is NHS's view that low carb diet is unsafe to type 1s, which I don't agree. I had to agree to eat carbs to get discharged. I don't know what the psychiatrist's recommendation would have been if I had told him I would like to manage my diabetes with low carb diet. My trust was completely gone by then and I was desperate to go home.
I personally think low carb diet is just a diet and should be treated same way as vegetarian diet. No one would force vegetarians to eat meat. My thinking on nutrition is that as long as we take necessary amount of calories it doesn't matter so much which energy source it comes from.
I am based in uk. I'm quite certain they followed their rules. I remember DN saying documenting our conversation and typing up. I just so wish they accept low carb as one of the ways to manage type1s.
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