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Diane Abbott & Diabetes Publicity

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by PurpleArmadillo, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. PurpleArmadillo

    PurpleArmadillo Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    So having seen that Diane Abbott was withdrawing from campaigning because of a long-term condition I did wonder about T2.

    Now it's confirmed and I'm pleased she's been so open about it.

    Regardless of your political allegiances it has to be a good thing that diabetes and T2 in particular is in the media spotlight.And I know looking back that a lot of signs were there for me. and I ignored them. The more publicity the better.

    It will be interesting to see how she is treated by the media now, having named diabetes as her illness

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...illness-and-hits-out-at-vicious-tory-campaign
     
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  2. Simon84

    Simon84 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Ugh!! Sitting on my hands genuinely right now so I don't let rip! :spitoutdummy:
     
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  3. jonbvn

    jonbvn Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I don't see May using her T1 as an excuse. If you decide to enter politics, you become fair game for the press and the opposition.

    If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.
     
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  4. DavidGrahamJones

    DavidGrahamJones Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It's useless trying to compare a Prime Minister with type I to a front bench MP with type II, apples and oranges. She may not have used her medical condition as an excuse for anything but I am concerned that her medical condition may affect her decision making. From my own experience and from what others have said, BG levels can affect our behaviour in many ways.

    I was wondering how many diabetics there are in Parliament, it's obviously not just May and Abbott. Keith Vaz and Jamie Reed, another 2, amazing what you can find when you start to look.

    Seems there's a lot going on in Parliament as far as diabetes is concerned. They are obviously concerned at the growing numbers, the cost to the NHS and the differences in education across the UK. A line of research to follow when I get some more time.

    https://www.diabetes.org.uk/Get_inv...l-Election-/?gclid=CO6q5LDPvNQCFUiNGwodo3QHgg
     
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  5. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    It could be the PM was having some cognitive problems when she called a snap election who knows.
     
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  6. jonbvn

    jonbvn Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    They are both female politicians with diabetes, although different types. The parallels are obvious.

    I cannot agree that diabetes of any type should be used to question someones capability in such a setting. It could set a dangerous precedent.
     
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  7. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    No one is questioning Abbotts capability, she's questioned her own, and done exactly what you said, and decided to move out of the kitchen for a while
     
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    jonbvn Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Another thing I disagree with Diane the queen of hypocrites on
     
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  9. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Everyone manages diabetes their way.
    I'm not going to insult her because she in some way isn't the flag bearer for diabetes you thought you would be in her position.
     
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  10. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    I'm sure diabetes is just one of several condition that members of parliament may have that at some point may impact their functioning or not.

    I seem to remember that David Owen published a book "In Sickness and in Power" in which he discussed the impact ill health had had on political leaders over the years.

    Though I do think Politicians should have the right to privacy where their medical history is concerned just like any one else.

    The decisions they may make when not functioning at their best do affect us all I just wonder how you resolve that.
     
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  11. lindisfel

    lindisfel · Well-Known Member

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    I suppose you manage it John by democratic group decisions so that the unbalanced individuals like Hitler and Stalin do not have control and all leaders and politicians are answerable and accept continual feedback. Derek
     
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  12. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    Stress can cause rash judgements, never mind diabetes. She is under a lot of pressure to fulfill brexit well. Now amalgamate with DUP successfully and make up for her misjudgement to call the general election.
    I'm glad I'm not in her shoes. Irrespective of diabetes. I'm anti-tory but I admire her fortitude.
     
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    pleinster Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, John...probably not diabetes related though.
     
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    pleinster Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Diabetes seems less of an issue for many politicians than megalomania.
     
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  15. DavidGrahamJones

    DavidGrahamJones Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking more along the lines of a prime minister who has a staff of many to do everything for her as part of the job and not having to pay for that staff out of her own salary and an MP like Ms Abbott who does not have the same privilege. The PM's weekend place, Chequers, cost £700K last year and that's on top of the general running of the property.

    My dietary requirements need consideration and wouldn't it be so much easier if I could get somebody to do it for me? Like the PM does?

    They might both be female diabetics and that's where the similarity ends.
     
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  16. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    Yes, PM does look well on it.

    Diane may be struggling. Will her boss support her and use good duty of care? I'm sure he has.
    He talks about looking after the vunerable.
    What more vunerability than facing the press when not well?
    I read often.
    It is up to the employee to involve their employer when ill. Always.

    Maybe she needed to involve her boss sooner of her uncontrolled diabetes and how much its affecting her job and normal abilities.
    Maybe employers need new legislation on how to support diabetes since more employees are going to be affected in the future?
    Is the law in place sufficient?
     
  17. tim2000s

    tim2000s Type 1 · Expert
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    Technically, she's not employed by Corbyn, and he isn't her boss.

    Technically, all MPs are "self-employed" and hold Office through election for which they are reimbursed by the state, so any duty of care lies purely with an MP themselves.
     
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