Do we need fat in our diet?

[Robinredbreast]

Just not the prime example I think @helensaramay Of course we all eat and cook with fat where appropriate and without it we wouldn't be able to work with fatty acids and things would go wrong.

Boiling onions?! As someone who enjoys them raw I can't stomach that concept.

I enjoy raw onions too, love a few bits of raw onion with a piece of raw carrot,

 

[Member496333]

Back to the fat in nuts

Indeed

As you say I think it’s probably impossible to avoid all dietary fat, but that doesn’t stop some people trying. I actually think one of the biggest common dietary health risks alongside sugar is people consuming the wrong types of fats - seed oils.

 

[WuTwo]

I enjoy raw onions too, love a few bits of raw onion with a piece of raw carrot,

We make our own coleslaw, and that's always got more carrot and onion in than store bought stuff. It's better because we can add spices if we want them - lots of options! It's gorgeous in sarnies with any other ingredients we want, and brilliant as a side at dinner.

 

[Listlad]

I am eating a lot more fat now. Tons more than I did for years. Am eating stuff like streaky bacon and corned beef and tons of cheese, all of which I had almost stopped eating a good few years back.

Do we need it? I don’t know. I have faith in you guys though.

 

[Robinredbreast]

We make our own coleslaw, and that's always got more carrot and onion in than store bought stuff. It's better because we can add spices if we want them - lots of options! It's gorgeous in sarnies with any other ingredients we want, and brilliant as a side at dinner.

I love homemade coleslaw. I make my own too, and for a bit of an' american twist' I add mustard and gherkins, sometimes use red cabbage.

 

[Resurgam]

I got my very own stalker by suggesting that fats might be a good thing - someone who posted messages insulting my mental powers, ideas and intelligence etc - me - brain the size of a planet... well not exactly but you get my drift I am sure.
He seems to have backed off responding to my messages now - but he replies to posts straight after I do, so he's still on my trail and letting me know he is.
Although we are composed of basic atoms, there are some complicated molecules which we can't make just by sticking atoms together. Usually we have the ability to make them from simpler molecules, but we need to absorb them.
It is rather like reusing old bricks for a new building rather than starting off with clay and firewood.
Essential fatty acids are absorbed and joined up to make what we need and the rest is burned as fuel.

 

[Pinkorchid]

Following on from a different discussion, where the idea of a vegan diet with no fats was mooted, I would like to know more about the role of fat in our everyday diet please.

Not so much from a heart health point of view, a there are many thread about that.

More from the stance of are fats vital for our bodies and what happens if we dont eat enough, or cut them out of our diet.

I think vegans still eat fats just not animal fat

 

[Guzzler]

Dietary fat is essential to facilitate uptake of fat-soluble vitamins like vits A, D, E and K.

Your body cannot function without fatty acids such as Linoleic and Linolenic acids which are vital for brain development and blood clotting among other stuff.

It is widely known that many (all?) Vegans take supplements to avoid deficiencies caused by malabsorption issues.

 

[lucylocket61]

Brenda Davis, RD, a plant-based expert and coauthor of Becoming Vegan, says that researchers have clearly demonstrated that by reducing calories from fat to no more than 10% and dramatically reducing harmful fats, heart disease can be successfully treated (and in many cases reversed), and type 2 diabetes can be effectively treated.

the above quote is from here: https://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/1016p20.shtml

 

[Indy51]

It also seems like gallbladder health requires fat - it triggers the gallbladder to contract and expel bile - without contractions the gall will become thick and sludgy and eventually stones develop. Then all sorts of bad things can happen leading to gallbladder removal.

 

[Indy51]

I got my very own stalker by suggesting that fats might be a good thing - someone who posted messages insulting my mental powers, ideas and intelligence etc - me - brain the size of a planet... well not exactly but you get my drift I am sure.
He seems to have backed off responding to my messages now - but he replies to posts straight after I do, so he's still on my trail and letting me know he is.
Although we are composed of basic atoms, there are some complicated molecules which we can't make just by sticking atoms together. Usually we have the ability to make them from simpler molecules, but we need to absorb them.
It is rather like reusing old bricks for a new building rather than starting off with clay and firewood.
Essential fatty acids are absorbed and joined up to make what we need and the rest is burned as fuel.

I hope you've reported this person to the moderators.

 

[Grant_Vicat]

OK @db89 and @Robinredbreast perhaps mushrooms wasn't such a great idea.
What about roasting potatoes without fat?
I was going to ask about cooking onions and then remembered my MIL boils these ... and loses all the flavour.

And then there's the good ole avocado which is high in fat.

I'll go back under my rock, stop arguing and try to do some work for the next hour or so

This is a topic I am particularly interested in at the moment, since my wife has gall stones and has been advised to eat minimal fat. Consequently I have figured the only way to cook passable roast potatoes is to cut each one into small pieces, boil them and then agitate them in a colander. Sprinkle them with black pepper, garlic salt and whatever herb you like and cook till crispy. Although they don't have the glorious effect of potatoes roasted in goose fat, they are still good, especially if you use a good quality spud in the first place. I cook large mushrooms upside down in the oven. I realise this is all absurd to anybody on a LCHF diet, but it has kept my wife away from pain (and inflicted pain) for 15 months! I have to analyse every single item that we eat -a sort of role reversal from when I was Type 1. My only concern has ironically been whether I am getting enough fat myself. I deal with this in other ways!

 

[Listlad]

It also seems like gallbladder health requires fat - it triggers the gallbladder to contract and expel bile - without contractions the gall will become thick and sludgy and eventually stones develop. Then all sorts of bad things can happen leading to gallbladder removal.

That happened to me.

 

[Resurgam]

I hope you've reported this person to the moderators.

It was not on this forum, but yes, the insults got so bad that I reported the worst one of them, but I think there were several posts removed - it was quite a strange experience though.

 

[Tophat1900]

Following on from a different discussion, where the idea of a vegan diet with no fats was mooted, I would like to know more about the role of fat in our everyday diet please.

Not so much from a heart health point of view, a there are many thread about that.

More from the stance of are fats vital for our bodies and what happens if we dont eat enough, or cut them out of our diet.

We wouldn't be typing in this thread without fatty acids, everything from fuel for your cells, which all your organs must have to function in a healthy manner, to energy storage, hormones and lipid function. They play a roll in signaling your immune system, platelet formation, it just goes on and on.... our entire being depends on healthy fatty acid profile, hence the reason they are essential.

I do think we all need to find the right amount of fat to consume and that can be difficult for some. As @Guzzler stated, certain mineral and vitamins require fat. Fatty acids play a huge roll in our ability to get up and go all day.

 

[WuTwo]

I don't know how people manage to eat well without fats. What do they spread on their fresh crusty bread rolls - I love them still warm from the oven liberally spread. Or cheese, and vegennaise? Dry sarnies?? Yuk. No delicious desserts?

Nope. Aside from needing the fats medically, they're a must in making food a sensory pleasure. And I think it ought to be a pleasure

 

[Pinkorchid]

I don't know how people manage to eat well without fats. What do they spread on their fresh crusty bread rolls - I love them still warm from the oven liberally spread. Or cheese, and vegennaise? Dry sarnies?? Yuk. No delicious desserts?

Nope. Aside from needing the fats medically, they're a must in making food a sensory pleasure. And I think it ought to be a pleasure

I wonder where some people get the idea that Vegans do not eat any type of fat at all

 

[Member496333]

I wonder where some people get the idea that Vegans do not eat any type of fat at all

This thread was posted with reference to a previous topic in which the notion of a zero-fat diet was being discussed, so it’s best viewed in that context.

Following on from a different discussion, where the idea of a vegan diet with no fats was mooted, I would like to know more about the role of fat in our everyday diet please.

Not so much from a heart health point of view, a there are many thread about that.

More from the stance of are fats vital for our bodies and what happens if we dont eat enough, or cut them out of our diet.

 

[Guzzler]

I wonder where some people get the idea that Vegans do not eat any type of fat at all

I'm pretty sure that most people are aquainted with the concept of veganism. No animal based fats so no dairy (inc cheese) etc but vegan fats like olive based products, coconut, avocado (for some but not others) etc.

 

[zand]

Do we need fats? Well my body certainly does. I did a 600 cal veg only diet for 7 weeks. It was meant to be 8 weeks but I had to give up as I had very painful joints and bones. On my last day of struggling with the pain I ate some cream (from my son's dessert) it acted like a pain killer...pain gone 5 minutes after having fat. It might just be me of course but I would never cut out fats again.