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Driving Licence Suspended

Discussion in 'Driving and DVLA' started by martynlloydkelly, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. martynlloydkelly

    martynlloydkelly · Active Member

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    Thank you very much, for both signing and and for your well wishes towards everybody who may suffer as a result of the directive and its interpretation.

    Wow, so the reapplications process is pretty much as long as I thought it was. Sounds like you're one of the lucky ones, my consultant has written letters for a number of patients whom this has happened too but his words fell on deaf ears. Fantastic that you managed to get your licence back though, congratulations! In actuality, the guidelines are not that new. The EU directive which led to the DVLA's decision was put forward in 2011 however, even though various diabetic associations opposed it there wasn't much public aweareness created. Unfortunately this meant that the directive and its interpretations stuck.

    Thank you so very much for signing and for sharing your experiences, it helps more than you may think! There is indeed a Facebook page for the group, you can find it at www.facebook.com/diabetesdvla I hope that helps! Its best to invite everyone regardless of location, in fact having support from people in different countries would strengthen the argument as those who it will be delivered to see that the argument is backed up ubiquitously. Its not just a marginal group of people backing the idea then, ergo it carries more weight.

    Best,

    - Martyn
     
  2. smidge

    smidge LADA · Well-Known Member

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    Hi Martyn!

    I have signed your petition. I believe the whole way insulin-dependent diabetics are treated by the DVLA is a disgrace. I have a 3 yr restricted license just because I use insulin - no reason for this at all in my view. I hope you win your case and thank you for raising awareness of the issues we face.

    I'll pass the link to your petition to another diabetes forum I belong to. Hopefully you'll get a few more supporters there.

    Smidge
     
  3. solana

    solana · Newbie

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    I have had type 1 for 54 years and am appalled at the change of policy regarding driving licenses. I understand the changes are due to an EU directive. I shall happily sign your petition. There is a lesson in this - never admit to a severe hypo if you want to retain your driving license.
    Ann
     
  4. harryo53

    harryo53 Type 2 · Newbie

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    hi I am type 2 diabetes I told the DVLA they said no change to licence

    can you give me the link to the petition please :)
     
  5. micksmixxx

    micksmixxx Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Petition signed, Martyn.

    It won't affect me as I voluntraily gave up my licence when things started to go wrong.

    I'm looking forward to receiving any feedback from the DVLA with regards to my comments about some doctors perhaps considering retraining.

    Be well, young sir.

    Lots of Love and Light

    Mick
    x x x x
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    P.S. Please don't be offended or alarmed at the "x's". It's simply a logo, of sorts, that I've used for some 30-odd years now.
     
  6. Assimilator1

    Assimilator1 · Active Member

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    Signed petition & shared it on facebook.
    Great job on the lobbying btw! :)

    I'm a mechanic, lose my license & I'd lose my job!
     
  7. Andrew40

    Andrew40 · Member

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    Hi, in response to your driving licence query, firstly check with your Diabetician but I think you'll find that if you experience a hypo whilst asleep it does not count as a problem with your driving licence as this does not affect your driving. If you are hypo whilst awake and needed help than this is a problem but whilst asleep this isn't as you will never be driving when asleep and as we all know if you experience hypo when awake you can deal with it but if you experience hypo when asleep you are unable to get warning signs.
    Please let me know how you get on
     
  8. donnellysdogs

    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

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    Andrew40... You are wrong..
     
  9. gaiaxaia

    gaiaxaia · Member

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    thanks for the link
    a few of my FB buddies have already signed :clap:
     
  10. Andrew40

    Andrew40 · Member

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    Hi donnellysdogs, thanks for your reply but as a diabetic for 33 years I have always been told by Diabeticians over the years that hypos whilst asleep are not counted as a problem on hypos whilst awake please check on this and get back to me. bearing in mind you have no warning signs when asleep but when awake you do. If you are hypo unaware whilst awake you should not be driving full stop as this is dangerous.
     
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    Diddly Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Andrew 40, Hi this is the point of the petition the dvla medical form does not differentiate between sleep and awake hypos.

    Sent from the Diabetes Forum App
     
  12. Andrew40

    Andrew40 · Member

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    Hi Diddly, I have always been told that hypos whilst asleep do not count and for that reason it does not have to be reported. Your Diabetician if asked will give you advice on whether and what to report as far as DVLA are concerned. Otherwise no one would be able to drive as all diabetics have hypos during the night now and again. As I said earlier when awake you get warnings if not this is known as hypo unaware and you must not drive in this case as this is dangerous.
     
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    rontom89 · Newbie

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    I'm all for honesty. But for the hassle it causes when you tell the DVLA about hypos that have absolutely nothing to do with driving, they don't need to know. It doesn't concern them.

    If you had a sudden hypo attack at the wheel then obviously let them know, but the chances of that happening if you remember the simple rule "FIVE TO DRIVE" and take regular breaks on long distances then you won't have a problem.
     
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    Ernest jones · Newbie

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    The DVLA are very inflexible. You will need to resubmit a DIAB1 form and a new licence application.Send any mail to them by recorded delivery. ( to the Drivers Medical Section ) when you know it is delivered phone the Medical Section to request an urgent review of your application. Insist that you speak to a Manager.
     
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    Ceejaypb Type 2 · Newbie

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    I fully support you in this though its not just people with type 1 that are affected, its the same for people with type 2 as well. I have signed your petition. Good luc
     
  16. donnellysdogs

    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

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    Andrew40
    If you have more than 1assisted hypo whilst asleep in one year then they DO count. This is the whole point of the petition. Welcome to tbe debate, but please support us with this... RULES HAVE CHANGED... All diabetics should be made aware of this...
     
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    Riri Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    My husband and I have just signed the petition. :thumbup:
     
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    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

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    Dont forget everyone to send links to friends as well!!
     
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    Midzbike · Newbie

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    Hi

    I've been Type1 for more than 40 years & have been moved to a pump in February, due to my sensitivity to insulin. I'd be fascinated to know why 4mmol counts as a hypo & does everyone have the same abilities at the same blood sugar levels? If the DVLA insists we must stay at high(er) HbA1c levels in order to continue to hold a licence, what effect will this have on our eyesight, circulation, kidneys etc?

    Would it be a good idea if the DVLA/Government was to give Constant Glucose Monitors to us all, to be compulsorily used while we drive?

    Do we need to contact our MP's & the DVLA as individuals, then work together to produce research & evidence of better ways of identifying each individual's condition?

    Regards

    Mark
     
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    lambros6 · Member

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    I had mine taken off me last August.
    I certainly know how you feel because I have missed my car so much.
    I was having lots of hypos at the time but always get a warning and always made sure when I drove.....I had everything under control.
    My GP gave them the wrong information.
    I got a second opinion from my consultant at the diabetes centre I attend.
    He told me he'd write a letter and make sure my license was returned.
    He also told me, due to New EU rules. There is a helluva lot more getting their licenses revoked.
    The DVLA sent me an application form to re-apply, which I did in February.
    I am still waiting as the medical board are still considering their decision.
    The waiting is killing me but go to your diabetic consultant is my opinion.
    Good luck !
     
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