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Exercise and low blood sugar

pavlosn said:
Andy I had a banana to both raise energy and blood sugars. I was lowish at 4,6 and was about to exercise so I did not want to risk either a hypo ( although I understand that was unlikely on the medication I am currently on) or my liver reacting to my exercise and low glucose levels by "dumping". There is nothing intrinsically bad in a banana, other than the relatively high carb content ( estimate 23g). In fact they are generally good for you as a source of potassium and vitamins. Although I am on a restricted rather than really low carb diet ( about 150 gm of carbs rather than under 50) I usually avoid bananas. So today because of the low fasting count and imminent physical exercise I chose to have is as a treat.


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because i try to keep my carbs low as possible i wouldn't normally eat bananas, which is a shame as bananas are yummy lol, so for me eating the banana wouldn't be a good idea it would to me seem like unnecessary carbs, I'm currently struggling to decide the best way to feed myself on endurance running so I'm not sure if you ate the banana for energy, to avoid a hypo that you wasn't going to have or as a treat? or all 3 things? if its for all or either of the reasons I'm not criticising I'm just wondering if in your opinion the benefits of the banana are worth me blowing my daily carb count, when i could eats say some nuts which would presumably stop the liver dump? and give me energy, so all i would be eating it for is the treat which i wouldn't want to do unless i wanted to it if you know what i mean, so to try and make sense of all that I'm trying to determine if for me and my diet and my exercise, would eating a banana be a wise move
 
so basically i wll probably end up face planting into the road as get faster and further lol. oh the joys of type 2
 
i wonder if a liver dump is actually a bad thing if say you are 3.0 and your liver dumps giving a bg of say 5.0, if this is the case there would be no reason to avoid the liver dump as its a natural way of our bodies controlling our bg? or is there maybe a more sinister side effect of the liver doing this?
 
well thats what i thought surely the liver should be working for us not against us. it does it in the morning to give us the energy we need to get up and get going. if it didnt then we would all be lazy day time tv watchers. so i think the liver does what it has to do
 
turvell said:
so basically i wll probably end up face planting into the road as get faster and further lol. oh the joys of type 2
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i don't think so.... i think if your bg was low enough to make you faint you would have had to stop or at least slow down before you got to that point
 
ive never had a hypo as far as im aware and i think if i do ill know its coming. but face planting would be amusing for passers by :)
 
Andy12345 said:
i wonder if a liver dump is actually a bad thing if say you are 3.0 and your liver dumps giving a bg of say 5.0, if this is the case there would be no reason to avoid the liver dump as its a natural way of our bodies controlling our bg? or is there maybe a more sinister side effect of the liver doing this?
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Liver dumps are fine Andy but you have no control over them. Alternatively, you can eat the banana whenever you like lol ! Hey, it's just an opinion I'm no expert but I'm just saying a level of 3.2 is not good. It may suit you and that's cool but no doc ( I know I know ) would advise it. Also, his BG may have still been dropping. May have ended up in the 2's !


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i suppose i should do a test after and 30 mins after too. never really thought about it that way. suppose it could keep going down
 
turvell said:
i suppose i should do a test after and 30 mins after too. never really thought about it that way. suppose it could keep going down
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It may or may not drop but it's worth checking. The banana is only an option, as Andy says, you could also try a handful of nuts and do same test. The main thing is, keep up the great work with the running.


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Andy12345 said:
because i try to keep my carbs low as possible i wouldn't normally eat bananas, which is a shame as bananas are yummy lol, so for me eating the banana wouldn't be a good idea it would to me seem like unnecessary carbs, I'm currently struggling to decide the best way to feed myself on endurance running so I'm not sure if you ate the banana for energy, to avoid a hypo that you wasn't going to have or as a treat? or all 3 things? if its for all or either of the reasons I'm not criticising I'm just wondering if in your opinion the benefits of the banana are worth me blowing my daily carb count, when i could eats say some nuts which would presumably stop the liver dump? and give me energy, so all i would be eating it for is the treat which i wouldn't want to do unless i wanted to it if you know what i mean, so to try and make sense of all that I'm trying to determine if for me and my diet and my exercise, would eating a banana be a wise move
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I could well be wrong, but my understanding is that to avoid hypo or liver dump you need to increase glucose levels if low and hence you need some carbs not just nuts.

Personally I take the view that I can have carbs as long as my after count is within the acceptable limits. Today for instance my count one hour after eating the banana was a healthy 5,7. I did not test at two hours but I expect it was lower.

So I guess you can say I am an advocate of eating to your meter rather than a low-carber as such. I do not try to beat a target level of carbs but I do try to eat what will keep my glucose levels within the guideline limits.

My last hba1c was 5,5% so I guess my approach works well enough for me, with a bit of help from some medication.

I have no argument with anyone taking a different approach in fighting this dreadful disease of ours as long as it works for them!


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a hanfull of nuts what kind of guy do you think i am lol. thanks mo im really enjoying the running and for the first time in years i feel like me again
 
pavlosn said:
I could well be wrong, but my understanding is that to avoid hypo or liver dump you need to increase glucose levels if low and hence you need some carbs not just nuts.

Personally I take the view that I can have carbs as long as my after count is within the acceptable limits. Today for instance my count one hour after eating the banana was a healthy 5,7. I did not test at two hours but I expect it was lower.

So I guess you can say I am an advocate of eating to your meter rather than a low-carber as such. I do not try to beat a target level of carbs but I do try to eat what will keep my glucose levels within the guideline limits.

My last hba1c was 5,5% so I guess my approach works well enough for me, with a bit of help from some medication.

I have no argument with anyone taking a different approach in fighting this dreadful disease of ours as long as it works for them!


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Andy
I hope I do not come across as defensive. I appreciate that you are asking a legitimate question rather than being accusatory! :-)


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pavlosn said:
Andy
I hope I do not come across as defensive. I appreciate that you are asking a legitimate question rather than being accusatory! :)


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NOT AT ALL, i always really enjoy your posts and always feel you have a very interesting and intelligent point of view which i do aspire to (unsuccessfully)

same goes for Mr MO

and appreciate your replies :)
 
How do you still manage to get a liver dump if you low carb to the point you eat less carbs in a day than your body consumes?
Overnight, the liver produces glucose from amino acids, and uses this in the morning. But then it replenishes it's store in the day from glucose at meals.
If there isn't any, you use ketones, also made by the liver. The "spare" bit of glucose is saved for the brain, kidney, and red blood cells. The muscles won't be getting any glucose produced if there isn't enough in the system.
 
l am trying with them in a previous thread god knows where l have to stop adding onto here!
I said l was starting to chomp a nanana pre run just for that bit of a boost see how it helped l am only round the block but also still very unfil. Turvell does a lot longer and as was pointed out by Pavlosan it is low and l said to help avoid liver dump. After all you will be using the carbs and at times he says he does go a bit light headed which is silly to do if a simple small snack can help and it isnt like he is really carb loading and will have run it off by the end.

In my case l have looked at meter readings and that glucose rise comes from someplace post exercise.
 
Mud Island Dweller said:
l am trying with them in a previous thread god knows where l have to stop adding onto here!
I said l was starting to chomp a nanana pre run just for that bit of a boost see how it helped l am only round the block but also still very unfil. Turvell does a lot longer and as was pointed out by Pavlosan it is low and l said to help avoid liver dump. After all you will be using the carbs and at times he says he does go a bit light headed which is silly to do if a simple small snack can help and it isnt like he is really carb loading and will have run it off by the end.

In my case l have looked at meter readings and that glucose rise comes from someplace post exercise.
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i hope your not misunderstanding me Ms Dweller, I'm not criticising the banana advice I'm just curious behind the idea, to decide if it would be a good idea for me :p
 
guys i just started my third run of the day and 25 mins in i felt dizzy and light headed. so ended it. just tested at 2.8 so i guess i have over done it today
 
turvell said:
guys i just started my third run of the day and 25 mins in i felt dizzy and light headed. so ended it. just tested at 2.8 so i guess i have over done it today
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2,8 is definitely too low!
I think I read somewhere else on this site that when Olympic multi gold medal winner Steve Redgrave was diagnosed as t2 diabetic he had to be put directly on insulin because to keep up his intensive training he had to consume a lot of carbs.


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it is i have had to sit down :(
 
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