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Fairly recent T2 diagnosis (Nov '16)

thingybobby

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Pretty shocked to be diagnosed, although suspected it, owing to symptoms.
I was 28 on prick test and only getting first HBA test on Monday.
For about the last month, I've had a stinking cold/cough, which just seems to be getting worse.
Anything to do with diabetes, or coincidental?
 
Most probably coincidental though your cough/cold may possibly be pushing up your BG reading.
 
Ha - snap - I had a dreadful long drawn out and very dismal cold. It went on for weeks, and I was told I had diabetes on the 15th - the doctor knew a week before, but could not see me until then to break the news.
I think that it is just the time of year to get such annoying illnesses. It has finally gone, I hope.
Don't worry about the blood glucose, it is possible to reduce it - just by diet if you want to avoid medication. You'll need to experiment to see just what you can eat, but with luck and persistence it could all be OK.
 
Pretty shocked to be diagnosed, although suspected it, owing to symptoms.
I was 28 on prick test and only getting first HBA test on Monday.
For about the last month, I've had a stinking cold/cough, which just seems to be getting worse.
Anything to do with diabetes, or coincidental?

Welcome. I'll tag @daisy1 who can give some great information. Your cough may be just coincidental- it's easy to blame evrything on diabetes, I know I did! Hope the HBA1c is ok, you'll get lots of support here - this forum has helped me so much.
 
@thingybobby

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It contains a lot of advice on carbs and levels and gives a link to the Low Carb Program which you could join, for free. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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Hi and welcome.

I tipped over into T2 about the time I had a grotty long lasting cough/chest infection. Went to the docs after I had the thing about 6 weeks.

So yes, there may be a link. High blood glucose affects our general immune system, and infections raise our blood glucose, so they work in concert to make us feel miserable.

Hopefully things will start to look up for you now, with a diagnosis, treatment, and the advice on the forum, you should start to feel a lot better soon. :)
 
Pretty shocked to be diagnosed, although suspected it, owing to symptoms.
I was 28 on prick test and only getting first HBA test on Monday.
For about the last month, I've had a stinking cold/cough, which just seems to be getting worse.
Anything to do with diabetes, or coincidental?


The reason I went to the doctor at diagnosis, was a persistent cough, it went away fairly quickly once I had gone onto LCHF !
 
Hi @thingybobby and welcome to the forum. It is a shock when you get told you are diabetic and takes a bit of time to get your head around it all. But you will get a lot of good advice and support on here.
The cold and cough would have raised your bs levels, any illness or infection is likely to do that. And being diabetic does weaken your immune system so you are more susceptible to illness and infection, and will be more affected. When you see your practice nurse you will be offered anti-flu injection because of that.
 
Hi, I've just been diagnosed too. Waiting for second test to see if it's type 1 or 2. I only went in as I was feeling tied after work. I would have dinner once I got in and then feel I needed to go to sleep by about 8.

My blood test showed 21. By this was after fish and chips the night before. The doctor didn't even think of diabetes. I've now been put on insulin at 10 units.

Now I'm overthinking everything I eat. I've never needed to check sugars, calories etc before. Is there anywhere I can get some good guidance on what is ok and what to avoid. Sugar is in everything, is there a ratio that is ok?
 
Hi and welcome to the forum @mattrbailey. If you are diabetic you obviously need to avoid sweet sugary stuff, including drinks.
But you also need to avoid or limit starchy carbohydrates, especially bread, potatoes, pasta, rice and beer, as carbohydrates turn to sugar in our bodies.
When looking at food labelling don't just look at the sugar content but at the total carbohydrate content. You should avoid foods which have a carb content of more than 10 gm per 100 gm (10%). It's best to stick to food with less than 5 gms of carbs per 100 gms (5%).
 
Thanks for the reply. I tend to eat mainly Thai or Chinese style food. All cooked fresh at home. One thing I can't see to find anything about is noodles, egg noodles or rice noodles.
 
Thanks for the reply. I tend to eat mainly Thai or Chinese style food. All cooked fresh at home. One thing I can't see to find anything about is noodles, egg noodles or rice noodles.
Noodles are just as bad as other sources of rice and grains. There are low-carb konjac noodles available in some places, and noodles made from soy flour aren't really low carb but only have about half the carbs of rice noodles or normal pasta.
 
@mattrbailey while you are on insulin waiting for a diagnosis of type 1 or 2. I suggest you eat normally and test your bloods sugar levels regularly.

I know it is a worry and it is good to learn as much as you can. Keep testing and see how your body reacts to normal meals. The insulin you have been prescribed should keep your safe until a firm diagnosis of type is made.
 
Thanks for the reply. I tend to eat mainly Thai or Chinese style food. All cooked fresh at home. One thing I can't see to find anything about is noodles, egg noodles or rice noodles.
I have been using Sharwood's Medium Egg Noodles. The Nutrition Information says it has 70 gms of carbohydrates per 100 gms (70%) so quite high. I don't test after meals so I don't know if they spike me, but I did eat a portion (43.8 gms of carbohydrates) twice last week and my fbgs the next morning were 5.8 and 6.2, so I think they are ok for me. But the only way to know if they affect you is to test before and after eating.
 
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