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Wuz

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Hi everyone, I was diagnosed type 2 about 5 weeks ago, with high cholesterol.. and high blood pressure over a year and half ago .. I still have no idea on what I'm doing! I'm on metformin slow realise 500mg one in the morning two in the evening, and statins! The nurse changed my bp meds to lorsartan 100mg and said just stop eating sugar and wait for the Desmond training. this doesn't help me at the minute. So I've looked on the internet everyone says low sugar diet full fat can't do that because of the cholesterol.. I already don't eat dairy, or sugar and have always drank diet drinks.. so I'm guessing carbs are the issue but again low carbs high fat!! Can anyone point me in the right direction I can't be the only person who has to deal with these issues.. I have changed everything to wholemeal and have a lot small portions. I will be grateful for any suggestions. Thank you
 

Art Of Flowers

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The solution is very simple. Stop eating carbs and get a blood glucose meter to check how food affects your blood sugar. That means stop eating breakfast cereals, bread, potatoes, rice and pasta. Also, avoid fruit juice as that is high sugar and also avoid fruit such as bananas and grapes. Don't worry about fat as that does not raise your blood sugar.

Avoid low fat foods as they tend to add sugar to make it taste better when they remove fat. See https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb for some more information.
 
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bulkbiker

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Second the advice to avoid carbs as much as you can.. forget about cholesterol for the moment (and hopefully forever).
My BP has come down, my weight has come down, my blood sugars have come down all by avoiding carbs. As for my cholesterol it has gone up a bit but I don't care a jot as it is a lousy marker for CVD. As you are female (according to your profile) then it seems that higher cholesterol is beneficial for you (that's according to the science) rather than the outdated belief that your doc seems to have.
As for statins.... never for me.
 
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Don't worry about cholesterol in the diet somehow getting into your blood - apparently it doesn't, most of the cholesterol in the blood is made by the liver.
I only have the first few months to go by, but my cholesterol dropped when I stopped doing the supposedly cholesterol reducing diet and went back to Atkins. My ratios were good or ideal.
I am now just over 6 months from diagnosis and absolutely fine - normal blood glucose levels so I hardly test these days, and I have been shrinking, regaining a waist and have just begun to see some weightloss again.
You do need to test your blood glucose after meals to start with so you can find out what you can eat, as it varies. Legumes are not good for me, as they seem to punch above their weight so I added them to the list of what I no longer eat.
The medication - Metformin and Atorvastatin did dreadful things to me so I stopped them after a few weeks - my blood pressure went up when taking the tablets and then dropped back to the usual numbers.
 
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Wuz

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Thank you guys that has been very helpful. I was told by my nurse I don't need to test my bg but my friend has insisted I buy one and test so I started to do that and got extremely stressed out by the numbers as I have no idea what they mean I mentioned this to my nurse and the reply was don't test. I know I will have a better understanding after the training but that's not until the end of June. She did point me to this forum so that was helpful. If anyone can point me to what the numbers mean that would be great. Sorry for all the questions and if I'm coming over a bit dumb I just want to get it right. Thanks again
 

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I mentioned this to my nurse and the reply was don't test.

It is irresponsible that the current recommendation is to stick your head in the sand and prepare for kidney failures, blindness and amputation...
 

Wuz

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Thank you so much it's quite simple when you know what it means.. and with my hbc1a being 90 I'm definitely diabetic and need to stop trying to convince myself I'm not! Now I will test and low carb it and see how I get on. Thanks again everyone
 

Mike d

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.... and do your homework on statins. Big time
 

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Hi everyone, I was diagnosed type 2 about 5 weeks ago, with high cholesterol.. and high blood pressure over a year and half ago .. I still have no idea on what I'm doing! I'm on metformin slow realise 500mg one in the morning two in the evening, and statins! The nurse changed my bp meds to lorsartan 100mg and said just stop eating sugar and wait for the Desmond training. this doesn't help me at the minute. So I've looked on the internet everyone says low sugar diet full fat can't do that because of the cholesterol.. I already don't eat dairy, or sugar and have always drank diet drinks.. so I'm guessing carbs are the issue but again low carbs high fat!! Can anyone point me in the right direction I can't be the only person who has to deal with these issues.. I have changed everything to wholemeal and have a lot small portions. I will be grateful for any suggestions. Thank you

In order to understand what to do, its important to know the components of your cholesterol. I would not care much what either HDL or LDL cholesterol is. Instead look at the triglycerides number - if it is above 1, then it is too high and it also signifies that your LDL cholesterol includes a significant proportion of the bad kind.
If you have high cholesterol the chances are that the trig number is high and the HDL number is too low giving you bad ratios.

Eating fats lowers triglycides in the blood, eating carbohydrates increases it.
Eating carbohydrates also lowers HDL

The food pyramid below describes perfectly the diet I have been following to get the results I have.



if you go on an LCHF diet, you should find that the trig number goes down
If you include saturated fats - eg butter in your diet you should find your HDL goes up.
it all seems very counter-intuitive I know, but I did exactly that and it works. you can see how well it works from my signature and from my blood results that I just posted .

if I were you, I would ditch the wheat based products as well as the sugar and also the diet drinks. Drink water, eat butter and full fat diary and real meats and follow the ketogenic principles set out in diet doctor.com and here. use the ketogenic healthy food pyramisd
Doing exactly that improved all my health markers beyond beleif.
 

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Mike d

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You're welcome. Some can tolerate them, many cannot. Dunno what your diet is, nor your weight but they are key factors as you read on through the forum and threads.
 

Wuz

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I've just looked on the NHS website about statins and I'm having several of the side effects including the pain my feet and legs and strange twitching in my fingers like they have a mind of there own. I'm going to try and get an appointment with my nurse and discuss this.
 

Wuz

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In order to understand what to do, its important to know the components of your cholesterol. I would not care much what either HDL or LDL cholesterol is. Instead look at the triglycerides number - if it is above 1, then it is too high and it also signifies that your LDL cholesterol includes a significant proportion of the bad kind.
If you have high cholesterol the chances are that the trig number is high and the HDL number is too low giving you bad ratios.

Hi thank you for your advice I haven't been given any of these numbers or even explained what cholesterol is. I am in the process of googling everything and I've looked at the site both you and another person has recommend and it has been very helpful.

Will the doctors give me these numbers if I ask them?
 

Mike d

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Identical to me to be honest until I dumped them. Discuss with a LOT of vigour and I'm not kidding.
 

Wuz

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Identical to me to be honest until I dumped them. Discuss with a LOT of vigour and I'm not kidding.

Ok I can be quite stubborn and i shall bare it in mind. I'm such a control freak and at the minute I feel out of control.
 

Mike d

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Thank God you are a control freak. It helps a lot ....

With that in your makeup, just know that YOU are in the driver's seat. Which hand by the way?
 

Wuz

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Now why did I know that? Precisely the same.

That's funny.. I've got a telephone appointment with the doctor on Monday and I'm not taking the statins until I've spoke to him and then not at all if he can't convince me why I should.. I'm a barber so shaking mad fingers aren't good for business