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Feeling Unwell

Discussion in 'Prediabetes' started by DianaMC, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. DianaMC

    DianaMC Prediabetes · Active Member

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    Hi, I am confused at the moment because, although my blood glucose pin prick results are good - tending to measure 5.4 at fasting and often the same at 1.5 hrs and 2.5 hrs after meals - I am having episodes of feeling light headed, spaced out, sometimes near to fainting, or feeling nauseous.

    The HBA1C test showed 43 mmol - I understand that equates to 6.1 on the !old’ percentage based scale.

    So, following a low carb diet seems healthy for blood glucose. And across 2 months I’ve lost about 8-10 lbs of weight. I had a lot of fat around my middle, which has reduced. My clothes fit better and my size and proportions look more ‘normal’.

    I know that mostly sounds positive. But the episodes of feeling poorly are really horrible! They tend to happen when I am out and about, shopping. Or out in large and bright environments.

    I also feel more short tempered more often than before.

    I have a tendency towards low blood pressure but it can also be ‘normal’.

    Supposedly I’m doing the right things for reversing
    Prediabetes. But I feel more ill!

    Has anyone any possible insight on this, or similar experiences?

    Many thanks,

    Diana
     
  2. EllieM

    EllieM Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Have you tried testing your blood sugar when you're feeling "poorly"? The symptoms sound a bit like hypoglycaemia (low blood sugar). If your blood sugars have been running a little high for a while it is possible to get these symptoms at above 4mmol/L, because your body is unused to lower blood sugars.
     
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  3. sonia2016

    sonia2016 Type 2 · Newbie

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    Hi, I am new to this forum so don't feel I can comment on the blood sugars, but I am concerned that these symptoms may be nothing to do with your pre-diabetes. I would consult your doctor. Good luck.
     
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    Geoffno6 · Well-Known Member

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    A complete guess but I was thinking the same, but I suppose it’s equally a guess to think it IS caused by the diabetes. Either way good luck in getting it sorted.
     
  5. Alexandra100

    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations on all the improvements! I suggest you take your meter kit out with you and test when you start to feel bad. This will show you whether you are going low or even going high at that moment. I used to find testing away from home really awkward due to the need to wash my hands first, but I recently discovered Diawipes from FunkyPumpers and they have made all the difference, as I can just wipe my fingers with one before testing. The wipes are tiny, in a re-sealable pack that fits easily into my meter case. Initially I was a bit nervous about ordering from an outfit with such a name, but I happened to mess up my order and have to telephone them, so I discovered they are a small outfit, easily available and very helpful, run by what sounded like a nice, down-to-earth middle-aged to elderly man and not the weird, drug-taking hippy the name conjured up for me.

    https://www.funkypumpers.com/product/dia-wipes/
     
  6. lindisfel

    lindisfel · Well-Known Member

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    Hi Diana,
    Some when they low carb get their electrolytes out of balance and try increasing magnesium or sodium or potassium.
    It's just a guess
    But U&E blood tests should show if there is a problem.
    D.
     
  7. Alexandra100

    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    Low carb is supposed to lower bg, which is a concern for me as mine was already pretty low. Do you have your own bp meter? Worth testing when you feel bad. I am now scraping along the bottom, just above or at what is considered too low. I tell myself that when I start to fee exhausted I should get up and move, in order to raise my bg, but my goodness it is hard to do!

    You don't say how low carb you are eating. There is something called keto flu that can afflict people for a while when the greatly reduce the carbs in their diet.
     
  8. TheFloppyOne

    TheFloppyOne · Active Member

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    Hi Diana,

    If your doing low carb you will run into Keto Flu and it can last any where between a 1 week to 2 months.
    You will go to toilet more than usual during the 1st few days.
    Your know when your half way though because your breath will smell funny and your urine will smell like nail polish.

    I am doing Dr Bergs Keto Diet and my carb intake is less than 10g a day.

    My symptoms are the following.

    Really low energy.
    Dizzy.
    Very light sensitive.
    Aches and Pains constantly.
    Panics.
    Moody.

    I have also been doing this a month so I guess we are on a similar time frame. I've lost 21 lbs in weight.

    Best advice can give is eat around 400g to 600g of leafy greens, avocado and ultra low carb veg (under 5g per 100g).
    Follow that up by using an electrolyte replenishment powder in your water to hydrate.
    Put 1 tbsp of nutritional yeast on your food. 2 meals a day or 3 if your still adapting.

    If your blood sugar drops very low get some Page Yogurt which is 3g carb per 100g. Take 2 tbsp, wait 15 minutes then retest with your BG meter.
    Tomatos are also a good way to get your BG up but have them with a meal because the more you eat the more your pump insulin up.

    Check Dr Berg out

     
  9. DianaMC

    DianaMC Prediabetes · Active Member

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    Thank you, everybody, for your insights, advice and sharing your experiences.

    When I’ve tested my blood glucose during these episodes when they’ve happened at home, my level is showing as normal (I think) - typically around 5.4.

    I will splash out on some diawipes as I never seem to be near anywhere for hand washing when the more severe episodes happen, out and about.

    The Keto flu sounds possible. I’m not adhering to a strict figure of carb intake. But it’s a pretty big leap from what was previously involved (eg biscuits, cakes, white rice, noodles and pasta - in large portions - along with pancakes, sourdough, baguettes and some brown toast, and various cereals and potato dishes) to the current diet which has virtually no pasta, much smaller portions of brown rice, mostly only whole grain bread and half the portion size of before, along with more beans and lentils and a few sweet potatoes, in place of the heavier carbs of before. I still have a measured amount of cereal but only once a day now and it tends to be muesli as first choice. If I have porridge it no longer has honey with it. Honey and jans are off the menu. Nut butters are on, but maybe more with something like celery than on toast (as before). So, not strictly Keto but the Keto flu symptoms fit.

    Then again that’s true of hypoglycaemia - and I didn’t know that could kick in above 4.0.

    My blood pressure does read quite low sometimes, during the low-energy episodes, using a wristband type of monitor. I too really struggle to move! It’s a bit like digging heels into a depleted mule!

    Electrolyte issues might equally be relevant, although nothing showed up on recent kidney function tests. I have experienced problems like that before, though and recall they can make for feeling very rough!

    I am having my heart rhythm checked over 24 hours just to be on the safe side. I see an endocrinologist to monitor another issue and also mentioned this to her - she thinks I should eat a small snack between meals. The prediabetes nurse said the same - and to drink more water. When the episodes hit, what seems to help is stopping walking, sitting down, eating a small snack (eg a few nuts/seeds/raisins - on holiday it was a few bites of a white magnum ice cream!) and drinking water.

    I’ve noticed what makes it worse is stress. And during these episodes I am more sensitive to light and noise; I feel ungrounded, as though I can’t fully feel my feet.

    Anyway, I appreciate all the input. If I have any more news on a definite cause, I will let you know. If it is Keto flu then I think I have passed the halfway mark.
     
    #9 DianaMC, Oct 2, 2018 at 11:18 PM
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2018
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