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For any who still think LCHF is a fad ...

Discussion in 'Low-carb Diet Forum' started by sanguine, Oct 3, 2014.

  1. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    What's the welsh equivalent of a cornish pasty?

    Around the midlands it was bread.
     
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  2. Robbity

    Robbity Type 2 · Expert

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    I remember back in the 1940s when we were given concentrated orange juice in brown glass bottles. I used to go with my mother to collect them - we used to have to queue in a large room above the local cinema. Probably one of my very early memories!

    Robbity
     
  3. alliebee

    alliebee · Well-Known Member

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    They used to test for diabetes or "the sugar sickness" as it was called back then by visiting drs who used to taste the urine. I kid you not :(
     
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  4. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @donnellysdogs

    http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/forum/read.php?10,9122
     
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    paul-1976 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Yuk!!:yuck: I assumed they just used Ants or other insects to see if they wanted to drink the golden nectar sample.
     
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  6. alliebee

    alliebee · Well-Known Member

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    The treatment used to be virtual starvation of the patient esp bread. So I guess low carb has been around since 1700's
     
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  7. jack412

    jack412 Type 2 · Expert

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    hence the expression, on the pi*s
     
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  8. alliebee

    alliebee · Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha ha. Exactly!
     
  9. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Newcastle diet.
     
  10. alliebee

    alliebee · Well-Known Member

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    That too. So sad to think not very far back in history. It was a terminal disease
     
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    mo53 Type 2 · Expert

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    @sanguine thank you for posting the diabetic cookbook. I have just read it from cover to cover and found it absolutely fascinating. How amazing that 100 years ago they were counting carbs. Brilliant post!!!:)
     
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  12. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It was more type 1, type 2 wasn't particularly recognised as such, you just got the complications, and went on from there.
     
  13. alliebee

    alliebee · Well-Known Member

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    Yes that's right. I have an old nursing textbook from my training and it was a sad state of affairs for type 1
     
  14. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    For history coming back around, leeches are back in the treatment room, making a comeback from medieval times.
     
  15. alliebee

    alliebee · Well-Known Member

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    And maggots for ulcers that won't heal too
     
  16. Robbity

    Robbity Type 2 · Expert

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    Again according to wikipedia (and also briefly mentioned in our main Dabetes UK site):
    Diabetes was one of the first diseases described, with an Egyptian manuscript from c. 1500 BCE mentioning "too great emptying of the urine". The first described cases are believed to be of type 1 diabetes. Indian physicians around the same time identified the disease and classified it as madhumeha or "honey urine", noting the urine would attract ants. The term "diabetes" or "to pass through" was first used in 230 BCE by the Greek Appollonius of Memphis.
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    Type 1 and type 2 diabetes were identified as separate conditions for the first time by the Indian physicians Sushruta and Charaka in 400-500 CE with type 1 associated with youth and type 2 with being overweight. The term "mellitus" or "from honey" was added by the Briton John Rolle in the late 1700s to separate the condition from diabetes insipidus, which is also associated with frequent urination.

    (Rolle was also the man who used the low carb diet treatment. in the 1790s.)

    I discovered all this information after originally seeing the low carb cookbook that Rod has linked to at the start of the thread, and found it quite intriguing that diabetes was actually recognised so long ago.

    Robbity
     
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    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

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    Thats amazing, more so that one of the posters mentioned Betws which was 1/2 mile from where we lived. Still miss the mountains... Their food box(s) were awful!!! Bread and Jam mainly!! I would have been the guy that took salad stuff and a teatowel!!

    Thank you so much. That meant a great deal to me personally. I can still picture the Betws mountains and little village area...I have a brick with me here that I dug up from the garden in Glanamman new bungalow as was then, with Ammanford Colliery on it with loads of tiny glass bottles... It was a hard working life for the miners and their families, that's for sure.
     
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  18. alliebee

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    That's so interesting thankyou for posting
     
  19. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @cold ethyl

    Sugary wafer fingers, in sugary jelly, with strawberries in syrup from a tin, with sugary custard, then cream on top for the sunday trifle.
    An assortment of steamed stodgy puddings we built the nation on, covered in home made custard, made out of pure sugar, and custard powder.
    We built Britain on spotted ****, and treacle sponge. (with custard)

    And if all that failed, there was always the Cling Peaches, in syrup,or the pineapple rings, in syrup, for a super sticky desert.
     
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  20. Kat100

    Kat100 · Guest

    Yes very sad ..and people died of starvation and other labels , which could be today be diabetes ....but undiagnosed ....people lived in dwellings some make shift and were staving ....quality of life was so often poor ....
     
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