For any who still think LCHF is a fad ...

[douglas99]

Here you are Douglas -- a bit of reading if you are actually interested in finding out about this topic. Let me know when you've finished and want to engage in a proper discussion:

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Just post up the extracts, that'll be fine thanks.

 

[equipoise]

Just post up the extracts, that'll be fine thanks.

I rest my case.

 

[douglas99]

I rest my case.

State the lifespan of an english medieval peasant quoted in.

Lindert, P. H., ‘Poor relief before the welfare state: Britain versus the Continent, 1780–1880’

Or indeed, rest your case.
And you will have seriously embarrassed all those liking your posts if you don't.

 

[izzzi]

There appears to be " conflict of interest " from @douglas99 and @equipoise.
Sorry Equipoise, You may win a few points yet Douglas99 seems to win over you every time.
Douglass99 must have read more books,gained more knowledge and shared out this knowledge to us wisely and fairly.

 

[donnellysdogs]

Please!! Can we get back to OP question?
This is now too much

 

[izzzi]

Please!! Can we get back to OP question?

Sorry @donnellysdogs I was being discourteous, your correct saying back to the OP question.

 

[donnellysdogs]

??
This is now too personal with grudges, info over my head and one up man ship of data...

Please can we move back to OP, i loved the debates previously but now its just between 2 people with different data and it getting too much for me to handle..

 

[IanD]

The argument has gone on too long. Please keep to the topic.

 

[modesty007]

@douglas99
A lot of references already at your hand so some easy read with references about dental decline and decreased height in evolution due to grains, the probably more healthy grains in the early days when compared to " the developed hardly with any nutrition" grains we have to today.
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/grains-and-human-evolution.html
http://www.liveto110.com/less-grains-more-brains/
The I rest my case in this matter.

 

[donnellysdogs]

Watched part of programme with the lovely Brian Cox which stirred to think about the following...

Through the ages man has grown taller and brains/head size larger. Just how large will we grow and how large can our head and brains grow to? I would love to come back in 4014 and see what is left of our world and how developments improved or wiled out the human race.

Normally I am a happy optimist nowadays in my personal life but when I look at earth aspects I really fear for the human race.

 

[douglas99]

................................. Just how large will we grow and how large can our head and brains grow to? ...................

Sounds like a star trek episode coming on?

 

[Lamont D]

'Cage of fear'
Pilot episode with captain Pike as commander. Can't remember the addis aliens without cheating.

 

[donnellysdogs]

Forget startreks, cage of fear.. My reason for watching was the gorgeous Brian Cox!! Thats why I can't remember what documentary was or what it's full detail was!!!!

 

[donnellysdogs]

Blimey.. Fluke.. Just advertised.. "Human Universe"