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primmers

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To help them make sensible food choices?

When I'm in a good place emotionally I'm very good at making sensible choices and bring my weight and BMs right down. When I'm not -stressed or feeling sorry for myself because I can't healthily eat the same as my friends or family - I tend to eat the carby stuff anyway and to hell with the consequences. Except that the consequences catch up with me - blood sugar this morning 10.7, worst ever by a long shot.

In the short term I've decded to go back to the sort of intensive testing regime that I was on when first diagnosed and see if that makes me more mindful of the choices I make. But I've also been wondering whether a hypnotist might be able to help me not want the starchy carbs and sweet stuff in the first place.

Anybody tried this? Any views?
 
Good idea but I would guess it all depends on if you are susceptible to hypnosis as not everyone is. The only way to find out is to try!

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In your case hypnotism may not be necessary,
You could try self hypnosis, yet the only magic you need is "Motivation"
I have not met anyone that has claimed hypnotism has worked regarding diet control.
If you do go down this road please make sure you use a professional hypnotherapist and please keep us up to date on the results.:):)
 
I downloaded Paul mckennas audiobook last year... I think it's called "I will make you thin". I listened to it religiously for nights on end. Was really into the idea that it would work.
The only pounds I lost were the £8 I paid to buy it.


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Hypnotism does help but not used in the wrong way. I would say that you need to look beyond the food to root problems sounds like a lot of comfort eating. Often people will deny they have any problems because it is harder to revisit the original problem in any form than to deal with the perceived problem. It doesn't have to be and often isnt a major l was raped thing it can be a series or single small event that happened possibly a long time ago when you felt insecure either emotionally, physically or because you were very young. Deal with that and the eating will become manageable.
 
I think the problem is just the realisation that I will never be able to join in the ordinary social interactions that centre around food on the same basis as my family and colleagues and it's making me sad and resentful. My job involves a weekly team meeting, someone always brings in a home made cake, everyone but me has a slice and chatters away about how lovely it is. I feel left out. I can't ask them not to do it because what they're doing is so normal and isn't harming them -not as though there's such a thing as passive carb ingestion.
I am a diabetic, will always be a diabetic and need to face up to the fact that I won't be able to do normal things like have a piece of cake at a team meeting. I just thought hypnotism might make me not want the cake and therefore reduce the sense of exclusion and isolation...
 
luceeloo said:
I downloaded Paul mckennas audiobook last year... I think it's called "I will make you thin". I listened to it religiously for nights on end. Was really into the idea that it would work.
The only pounds I lost were the £8 I paid to buy it.
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I bought a copy of this book off Amazon last year and actually thought it was a good read, it offered easy to understand examples of why people mostly overeat and offers several techniques that can be employed to change how we feel about ourselves and our relationship with food.

The book comes with a CD with relaxation techniques which I never bothered listening to TBH and I only paid a couple of quid for a 2nd hand copy but even at the asking price I think it would have been worthwhile, its not a magic bullet and it doesnt offer instant results but it does contain some very interesting information and techniques that I have found very useful.

Will it make you thin?

It might, but its probably doubtful or I wouldnt have found a second hand copy on Amazon would I?, To work it would require the reader to follow the techniques to the letter and keep following them to the letter just like every other diet plan or idea. Better to see it as one more useful resource to draw information from, another tool in your tool box, no one technique is going to do everything for everybody, for the best results IMHO we need to select bits of knowledge from as wide a reference base as is possible and I look on this book as being just one more useful piece of the jigsaw.

Would I pay for hypnotherapy? Probably not but I wouldnt rule it out if I thought I could get something from it, I am lucky in that I have found a way that works well for me for weight loss, weight maintenance and bg level control and am happy with the lifestyle I have developed but it didnt come overnight and it didnt all come from the same source, rather I took what I felt were the best bits from a whole range of books, ideas and recommendations and thats what I would recommend for others. There are always lots of ways to do anything the trick is to find the way that works best for you.
 
primmers said:
I think the problem is just the realisation that I will never be able to join in the ordinary social interactions that centre around food on the same basis as my family and colleagues and it's making me sad and resentful. My job involves a weekly team meeting, someone always brings in a home made cake, everyone but me has a slice and chatters away about how lovely it is. I feel left out. I can't ask them not to do it because what they're doing is so normal and isn't harming them -not as though there's such a thing as passive carb ingestion.
I am a diabetic, will always be a diabetic and need to face up to the fact that I won't be able to do normal things like have a piece of cake at a team meeting. I just thought hypnotism might make me not want the cake and therefore reduce the sense of exclusion and isolation...
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You could join in the team meeting nosh. Take some cream and berries and offer it to others to add to their cake. Then have a big portion yourself. That's what I have at family birthday teas now.

Last week I was a family do and there was a big carby buffet. My mum got me a punnet of M&S Greek salad to eat instead and it was delicious and low carb.

My personal experience of hypnotherapy:
smoking cessation - successful
anxiety - made it worse
 
Primmers start to take control. We have lunch and learns so l send a request for a block of cheese. I went to a CPD the other night scraped the cheesey mix topping off ate that. (had a couple of eggs before so wasnt to hungry. If l go out for a meal l choose what l want so if a burger l tell them no bun ask what veg there is and choose that or extra salad and no chips and some garlic mayo.

If you have keen cooks at work take some of the recipes from the low carb forum in and ask/challenge them to make some so you can join in. Do a search (up top page) and look up Rocky Road, we add in sugar free jelly (pack of sugar free jelly with half stated water and 3 leaves of gelatin makes it into a jelly sweet not a soft jelly) and l guarantee you take those in you will loose your hand. Other sweet things as well in there look up Chocolate paradise. (Rocky road is also in the chocolate paradise thread)... start at the start of that one and drool through it) heck there is hundreds of low carb high fat recipes on this forum and you may not be a low carb high fater in general eating but having an odd treat of said items means at least you can join in.

You are only held back by the power of your own mind. Oh and get a meter if you havent got one already.
 
Am I missing something here? Being a diabetic doesn't mean you have to do without, you just have to make sure it's controlled. Why can't you have some cake and bolus however much is in it?

As for hypnotherapy. A good professional hypnotherapist or NLP Practitioner would be able to help you. I've saw it work on people who have phobias with snakes, spiders, enclosed spaces and just sitting in public spaces. But like anything you have to do your homework before making a choice.

Paul McKenna's book is good but the person reading it does not know how to use it properly. Things like tone of voice, pauses, change of volume and use of language are fundamental in things like hypnosis and NLP having the desired effect. They are very complex things that have to be done in the correct environment.

Good luck!


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The last paragraph of Jordano's reply is important.
Tone of voice, expression and body language are vitally important and may be obstacles to benefiting fully from, say, hypnosis from a book.

But the difficulties between written words and speech are everywhere and not always taken account of when using internet communication such as this Forum.

For instance, the OP here is marked as being Type 2 and therefore won't be able to compensate via bolus.
Many disputes arise here because people join discussions without fully reading what's gone before.

Sometimes a thread from a year or so ago is revived and people reply as if it were new, causing confusion.

Unfortunately it takes time to fully take in what's being said (written!). Time which, in our haste to offer support and help, we don't always have.
Jane.
 
Paul McKenna's books usually come with a CD so you can hear the tone of his voice, pauses etc They are not personalised obviously, but better than just reading a book.
 
Jordano1 said:
Am I missing something here? Being a diabetic doesn't mean you have to do without, you just have to make sure it's controlled. Why can't you have some cake and bolus however much is in it?

As for hypnotherapy. A good professional hypnotherapist or NLP Practitioner would be able to help you. I've saw it work on people who have phobias with snakes, spiders, enclosed spaces and just sitting in public spaces. But like anything you have to do your homework before making a choice.

Paul McKenna's book is good but the person reading it does not know how to use it properly. Things like tone of voice, pauses, change of volume and use of language are fundamental in things like hypnosis and NLP having the desired effect. They are very complex things that have to be done in the correct environment.

Good luck!


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Jordano1,
You may indeed be "mising something here" Primmers is a type 2, not on insulin (as I recall) and therefore can't just "bolus however much is in it" to someone in this position diet may be the main/only method of control as they don't have the "luxury" of using insulin. (I know insulin is not a luxury but if you don't use it it cannot be a control method.
 
I had hypnotherapy to get through a major fear of having an injection in my eye. It worked. I felt like I was observing the experience rather than being in it. I gave up smoking almost a month ago. Have had several failed attempts over the years. This time I used a hypnosis app that was recommended which doesn't specifically target smoking but deals with self-limiting thoughts and beliefs rooted in the past. I used nicotine patches for a few days and have genuinely not wanted to smoke at all. There is work to be done yourself. It isn't a magic potion, but for me it was a success. As stated in a previous post, a lot depends on how suggestive to hypnosis you are.

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primmers said:
I think the problem is just the realisation that I will never be able to join in the ordinary social interactions that centre around food on the same basis as my family and colleagues and it's making me sad and resentful. My job involves a weekly team meeting, someone always brings in a home made cake, everyone but me has a slice and chatters away about how lovely it is. I feel left out. I can't ask them not to do it because what they're doing is so normal and isn't harming them -not as though there's such a thing as passive carb ingestion.
I am a diabetic, will always be a diabetic and need to face up to the fact that I won't be able to do normal things like have a piece of cake at a team meeting. I just thought hypnotism might make me not want the cake and therefore reduce the sense of exclusion and isolation...
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This is different, You show a lack of confidence. (you do not need to have a alcoholic drink,a cigarette or eat cake to be involved in any team). It is time for you to be the team leader and ignore stupid chatters. As AvacadoSevenfold says take in some cream and berries, even with slices of avocado.
Take a good look at yourself and you will see a winner.
Now look into my eyes :cool: your are now the best :)
blimey it worked.:doctor:
 
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