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Jonbartonww4_

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Location
Bridgend
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Insulin
Dear all

Please can you help and provide advice

I’m 38 type 2 insulin based with toujeo at night and then novo rapid three times a day

I have been struggling past couple months constantly tired, headache and no energy, had my hb1 test result which was 101

I need to reduce this dramatically
 
Welcome to the forum.
@daisy1 provides an excellent introduction which should give you some initial ideas for help.

The symptoms you describe fit very closely with the symptoms for high BG which matches your hb1AC result.

Can you tell us a bit more about yourself?
What do you eat?
How you determine your insulin dose?
How often do you test your BG?
What type of diabetes do you have? Your profile says "Type 1" and your post above says "Type 2".
What type of exercise do you do? This can include everything from pottering around the garden to regular gym.

You have started well by having the desire to reduce your BG and joining the forum.
Take a look around the whole site: there is loads of information here.
 
Dear all

Please can you help and provide advice

I’m 38 type 2 insulin based with toujeo at night and then novo rapid three times a day

I have been struggling past couple months constantly tired, headache and no energy, had my hb1 test result which was 101

I need to reduce this dramatically
Have you tried changing your diet? As diabetics we're unable to process carbohydrates, so if you drastically reduce those, the results for your bloodwork may be equally drastic. A low carb lifestyle got me into the non-diabetic range, I've got a 38 Hba1c now, and dropping still. Be careful with the insulin though, as you might get hypo's! Cutting carbs starts with not eating breakfast cereal, bread and other grain-based products, rice, corn, potatoes and naturally, sugary things, including fruit (though quite a few of us are fine with berries, especially strawberries). Meats, fish, eggs, avocado, nuts, above-ground vegetables, salads, butter, cheeses etc are your friend. Check your bloodglucose often to see what foods do what. (I assume you have a meter? If not, get one BEFORE you make changes to your diet!!!!). Test before a meal and 2 hours after first bite. It's the best advice I can give you. Worked for me, and many others here with me. Check the succes stories bit of the forum. ;) Good luck, and I hope you feel better soon!
 
lots of options depending on what you are doing at the moment......

being insulin treated you will still follow the basics of dose adjustment and carb counting.....

how are you going about things currently, like carb counting, daily carb intake, dose adjustment, oral meds?
 
@Jonbartonww4_

As mentioned above, your diabetes status says you are Type 1. Your post says Type 2. If you are Type 2, it would help if you change your status to "Type 2 insulin dependent"? You can do this in your profile settings. Otherwise it can become very confusing.
 
@Jonbartonww4_

Hello Jon and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will try to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Are you very insulin resistant so what you inject is ignored?
Do you eat a lot of carbohydrate?
Are you testing after eating? Two hours after the first bite is the type two assessment point - I adjusted my eating so I got 8mmol/l or less after meals, but of course you would need to be monitoring very carefully if you tried to lower your BG that way - did your HCPs have any advice on how to proceed?
 
Dear all

Please can you help and provide advice

I’m 38 type 2 insulin based with toujeo at night and then novo rapid three times a day

I have been struggling past couple months constantly tired, headache and no energy, had my hb1 test result which was 101

I need to reduce this dramatically

Hope this helps -

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

and welcome to our community!
 
Welcome to the forum.
@daisy1 provides an excellent introduction which should give you some initial ideas for help.

The symptoms you describe fit very closely with the symptoms for high BG which matches your hb1AC result.

Can you tell us a bit more about yourself?
What do you eat?
How you determine your insulin dose?
How often do you test your BG?
What type of diabetes do you have? Your profile says "Type 1" and your post above says "Type 2".
What type of exercise do you do? This can include everything from pottering around the garden to regular gym.

You have started well by having the desire to reduce your BG and joining the forum.
Take a look around the whole site: there is loads of information here.


Hi,
Thanks for replying and all help is really appreciated.
In answer to your questions
1) I am 38, work 12hr shifts which are 7am-7pm, x 2, then 7pm to 7am x2 followed by 4 days off. I have found myself asleep so much recently and am struggling with work. As a result I try to eat what I can and I know perhaps I haven't been savvy with what I eat so will be committing myself to the low carb diet now.
2) in relation to insulin dosage I roughly guess what I need pending on how I feel however reflecting on this can see my errors in what I have been doing and will change accordingly
3) As of Monday I now check 6 times where as before hardly ever tested thus a high hb1
4) in relation to what type I am I believe I'm type 2, diagnosed when I was in early 30's then it has gradually led to being insulin based
5) with work and being so tired all the time very little unfortunate, however I have no joined a gym, walk the dogs an hour a day

I hope this helps? Already I have started trying to sort myself out but any ideas suggestions would be great
 
Well done for starting to sort yourself out, and especially for finding this forum as it is the best place to learn and find support.

I suggest you are tired all the time because you have very high blood sugars - it is a well known side effect. As you cut down on carbs and rubbish processed foods your sugar levels will drop and you will start to feel so much better.

You will need to be very careful. The fewer carbs you eat the less insulin you will need. Test and keep testing to make sure you aren't going too low into hypo territory. This is very important. It is time to stop guessing your insulin doses and start to carb count (if you have been taught how to do this). I am not an insulin user and have no experience of it, so hopefully someone else will come along with better advice than I can give.
 
Welcome @Jonbartonww4_ to the Forum :).

I agree with Bluetit1802 - Tiredness is a sign of high blood sugars.
You need to drink lots of water as it helps to flush out your system and stabilise glucose in your blood.
 
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