Has thanks for your reply. I've had little look about the site. I have a meter which I've started to test as I'm seeing a new dietician. I'm going on a diabetic course aswell in a couple of weeks. I'm on victosa metfirmin and two weeks ago started on empagliflozin which they says should help me lose weight and lower my sugars. I've been told about losing weight I'm very active always walking about I've moved cities in the last month as I blamed eating **** on being depressed where I lived but I'm happier now and have no excuse to eat badly. Im happy to eat lots of veg and salads that I love I just feel still hungry all the time.
Many official diabetes courses will advise whole grains and slow release low gi foods. Whilst these are an improvement on the white versions they are still high carb and will produce a rise in glucose. Just more slowly and not as high but for longer. The rise in bgl for these may come after the 2 hrs so test again at 3 or even 4 hrs with these so you don’t get a false sense of security thinking they are ok when they aren’t. A few lucky diabetics can eat a little of some without too much issue, but not many. By the time you get there you may have views on their appropriateness that doesn’t much agree with their use - many in here do.
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Thanks jo that's some great ideas. You know you say with meats eating to fill me how much would you say of meat like one chicken breast obviously I know without fat on it? I do love Tuna but is that with the brine not oil? What bout crisp readings like ryvita would they be OK. I usually for bfast like pasties which I know is a no no and cooked breakfast odd times. Me and my hubby are spending more time together and where we live our road has like 30 takeouts all kinds of food and something we like to do is go lunch together that's where we usually eat rubbish he's that type thin and eat what he wants I've tested his sugar when he's eaten loads chocakte abd has like a reading of 4. I've woken up and sometimes get a reading of 10! I'm gonna start a 1/2 hour walk after dropped kids in morning and do this few times a week I alreadinh walk loads too. I only got a new meter machine Friday so Il start testing before and after foods. I need to lose over 4 stone I worry so much for my health my kids are young me and hubby are all they got so I need to sort myself out stop making excuses. Thanks for replying I really appreciate it xOkay, this is a little surreal. Hi Jo! (Said Jo.
Well, you've come to the right place, that's for certain. I've seen several dieticians over the years and had a lot of diabetes/diet advice, and while I can't say it got me nowhere, the place it did get me was into morbid obesity and T2. So best thing to do is read a lot, like this site right here, or over at dietdoctor.com, or the books by Dr. Jason Fung. (He's brilliant!).
Everything we think we know about diet is pretty much wrong. And while it feels rather like going against instinct, you really want to up the fats some. I'll try to keep this relatively simple as a T2 diagnosis is enough to take in as it is, but the one thing you need to take away from all this is the following: You'll be okay! Got that? Good! The rest is all extra.
It's a good thing you've already got a meter, as you're going to need it. Test before eating and two hours after the first bite. If your sugars went up more than 2.0 mmol/l, the meal was too carby. Carby? Yeah, practically all carbs turn to glucose once ingested, so you want to avoid those. Carbs are just one of three macronutrients, the other two being protein and fat. And if you lower one, you want to up the other two. Not just because, especially fat, will make you feel full and will take care of hunger-pangs. It also, and that's a huge perk, fat slows down the uptake of any carbs you do eat, without having any impact on your bloodsugars itself. While proteine will up your sugars a little, and carbs will do it a LOT, fats just keep things on an even keel. And you do need fats and protein to get all your minerals, vitamins, what have you. So while salads are fine, you'll also need to add fats and protein to make it a meal that won't make you feel hungry 2 minutes after finishing.
So, things that aren't good for you, because you have trouble processing them back out: Bread, rice, potatoes, cereals, pasta and fruit, save for a few berries, avocado and maybe some cherry tomatoes. That leaves a lot of goodness though: Meat, fish, eggs, butter, cheese, avocado, berries, double cream, full fat greek yoghurt, nuts, olives, extra dark chocolate, leafy greens and above-ground veggies. Meals could look like this: Full fat greek yoghurt with a few berries, some walnuts and coconut. Two or three eggs with cheese, bacon, cherry tomatoes, mushroom, and/or sausages. (VERY filling, yay!). Salad with a can of tuna or salmon, capers, olives, avocado and mayo. Or a goat's cheese salad with a nice vinaigrette, cherry-tomatoes.... Dinner could be meat or fish with a load of veggies, and I've found cauliflower rice is a great substitute for actual rice, spuds or pasta. (It's very versatile! i like mine with whatever herbs I feel like, bacon and more cheese.
Good luck!
Jo (The Dutch one)
Hi thanks for reply I eat quite healthy at times but then feel hungry so will eat things I shouldn't. I like pasties and cook breakfasts I love crisps I've controlled myself on chocolate. Bread I eat in sandwiches and toast or to fill me up in salads. Love casseroles, curries. I basically like stodgy food that fills me up but I know is no good for me.
Thankyou yes I did see I didn't that either so thanks for letting me know
I'm going to keep this kindof short because with your medication I am basically at a loss. I said it before; fats are good. Have as much proper meat as you like (no breading!). Chicken thigh(s) with the skin & fat on for instance, rather than a single slim breast, as fat truly is a T2's friend. Tuna with oil, not brine. Eat until you feel satiated. Huge amounts of carbs aren't good for you, as they equal sugar in your bloodstream. So pasties, bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, all that stuff makes your bloodsugars shoot up. Eating out, well, I can have a whopper, I just order it without the bread... But again, with your medication, going as low carb as I am (and I'm at 20 grams of carbs a day or less) can be very dangerous. I didn't realise what you were on before, so basically, my advice is useless and possibly risky, because you can't have those meds and a low carb/high fat diet, as I now understand it, at the same time. This is what works for me, but I'm not on anything, I ditched the meds (in agreement with my doc) a couple of months after diagnosis. So, I'm thinking the others here are better equipped to help you as I completely missed your medication when giving advice, and they caught it, thankfully. I'm so sorry I botched this.
No it's ok I wasn't even told by my nurses about the carbs so it's ok please don't feel bad jo. I don't like thighs I much prefer chicken breasts I'm thinking of buying a load without skin and maybe putting herbs on to have with breakfast. I have Carmed down on all the carb stuff as I know I was having too much but it was just that I needed to feel fuller. I have a fresh fruit shop inky round the corner so I have no excuses to get it. I've been eating an apple and orange after dinner just to sometimes get some sweet taste or low fat Greek yogurt with hint cocunut anything rather then the cakes that call out my name I have two fresh bakeries just round the corner and it's awful with the tempting smells but it's my health and I can see alot if people are controlling their sugars really well and I want to do it too.
