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high sugars?

Mary, I'm the same. Anything with the tiniest amount of grain in it is a no go. I don't like it but I've accepted it.

wiflib
 
thankyou for both replies......ive always been ok with baked beans and bread,as ive been eating them for 2 years and 4 times a week............i personally think all the sweets,cakes choco....messed me up.
 
viviennem said:
Your blood glucose should come down after eating to about the same as it was before you started. For example, if your were 6 before eating, you should be in the low 6s 2 hours afterwards.

This is what is meant by good control, which many of us here are trying to aim for. The guidelines from the National Institute of Clinical Health and Excellence (NICE) for Type 2 diabetics are:

4 - 7 before meals;
less than 8.5 2 hours after
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I couldn't agree with you more Viv...

vw754 while everyone has the right to choose their own level of risk you need to recognise your levels are currently exceeding what most of us would call safe by quite some way.

For example although Viv correctly quotes the NICE guidelines for maximum levels after 2 hours the under 8.5 is very soft in my opinion as studies have shown that long term damage has been shown to begin with people who regularly exceed levels of 7.8. Even 7.8 is high when you consider that 19 out of 20 non diabetics would return to under 6.5 after 2 hours.

Again an HbA1c in the 7's would be considered far too high by many of us as it implies you are averaging BS levels between 8 and 10 well above the 7.8 safety limit. You also need to recognise that the risks of diabetic complications DOUBLES for each 1% rise in HbA1c so at 7 you have twice the risk of complications as someone at 6, at 8 you have 4 times the risk as someone at 6 etc. Many of us target and many obtain HbA1c's in the 5's so that we keep well within safety limits at all times.

I have only been diagnosed for 6 weeks but following the advice given by the contributors on this forum I have reduced my levels to the 4.5 to 6.5 range at ALL times of the day. They were in the low 20's when I started. In that 4.5 to 6.5 range I am nearly getting the same readings as a non diabetic and therefore in my own mind am not running at any significantly higher risk than a non diabetic. Importantly though I am now in control of my condition and that makes me feel so much better.

If you don't like discussing the numbers then think of it this way, regardless of what food you are being told is safe to eat then your levels and therefore your body is telling you something different. Don't worry about this as many (if not the majority) of us have the same problem.

Good luck
 
VW754 said:
thankyou for both replies......ive always been ok with baked beans and bread,as ive been eating them for 2 years and 4 times a week............i personally think all the sweets,cakes choco....messed me up.
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VW754, sit down, take a long deep breath, and re-read what people have been advising you in this thread. Beans and bread =carbs= sugar= high BG levels. these are as bad for you as your sweets, cakes and chocolate. I would nearly say beans are a no no. the only bread I eat, is Burgen (and being from N.Ireland this is my hardest problem to get over, as our diet is built a lot around our Potato bread, soda bread, and Wheaten Bread) it has 10g per slice, and if you fill that with scrambled egg, good bacon, tomatoes and mushrooms you will have a nicer meal than plain beans and toast, and it will be kinder to your BG levels. These are the simple wee adjustments that make all the difference.
 
vw754

You mention you've been eating toast/beans 4 times a week for 2 years with no probs.

Is that how long you've been db? Were you monitoring your bg levels then? Have you recently started measuring more often or seen a change in how these foods are affecting you?

Just curious, as I assumed you were newly diagnosed from the jist of the post.

Mary x
 
borofergie said:
VW754 said:
thanks ........well had 2 toast and 1 fried egg 3 hours later 7.4......
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Well it's better than it was (what does that tell you about the suitability of beans).

Next try trading the toast for some bacon, and see what that does to your BG...
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Agree drop the toast probably at least 30g of carbs which is roughly half my entire daily intake of carbs at present (I am male 6ft 2" 15st 7lbs). Think of the next few weeks as detoxing from carbs then once you have your levels under control begin to experiment with what you can and can't eat.
 
last level was 5.3 at 4pm today........had some food at 5.30 and just checked my leve(8.10pm) 14.8.....had i nan bread and veg curry.........oh i dont do bacon........and im having curry cuz its my everyday food..........thats what us asians eat regular,its our normal everyday(well most days) food.
 
I have just tested my sugars (2035 hours) and are 10.3. I had dinner at approx 1830 hours which consisted of 5 grilled sausages, a heap of vegetables ( Brussel sprouts,green beans,cabbage,peas and leeks - all frozen), gravy made with the water from the frozen veg,gravy granules and 1 gravy stock tablet and finally 1 glass of red wine plus 1 Metformin 500g tablet. Prior to dinner my BG reading was approx 7.2. Why did my BG rise so high?

I am at a loss as to why - glass of wine (about 200ml)!
Any ideas. Also my right groin leaked fungal liquid, something I thought I got rid of a number of years ago.
Help!

smegdog
 
VW754 said:
last level was 5.3 at 4pm today........had some food at 5.30 and just checked my leve(8.10pm) 14.8.....had i nan bread and veg curry.........oh i dont do bacon........and im having curry cuz its my everyday food..........thats what us asians eat regular,its our normal everyday(well most days) food.
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VW754, you're lucky, home made curry is a T2 staple. (Sid Bonkers can probably give you some tips on how to make a great low-carb curry).

Can you see that something is wrong with your diet VW? To go from 5.4 (a good fasting score) to 14.8mmo/l (which is seriously hyperglycemic) in the space of a single meal is pretty hardcore. You must have eaten a huge amount of carbohydrate. Especially since, your BG ws probably much higher an hour and 2 hours after your meal.

What do you think the long-term consequences of eating bread (and other refined carbs) with every single meal will be?
 
What was in the curry. Potatoes, and flour to thicken maybe? Both sources of carbohydrate.
Did you have any rice?

wiflib
 
VW754 said:
had i nan bread
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nan bread is your problem imo. very high carb and very high calories as well. curry should be fine, no idea about prunes!
 
smegdog said:
I have just tested my sugars (2035 hours) and are 10.3. I had dinner at approx 1830 hours which consisted of 5 grilled sausages, a heap of vegetables ( Brussel sprouts,green beans,cabbage,peas and leeks - all frozen), gravy made with the water from the frozen veg,gravy granules and 1 gravy stock tablet and finally 1 glass of red wine plus 1 Metformin 500g tablet. Prior to dinner my BG reading was approx 7.2. Why did my BG rise so high?

I am at a loss as to why - glass of wine (about 200ml)!
Any ideas. Also my right groin leaked fungal liquid, something I thought I got rid of a number of years ago.
Help!

smegdog
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smegdog a bit hard to say as it depends on how much you ate. Do you work out the carb count of what you eat by weighing it out? If so what did the meal add up to?

If the sausages don't have a high meat content and are being bulked out with cereal I'd suspect them. Check the packet and see how many carbs they are. Likewise the gravy granules could be stuffed with cornflower as the thickening agent. Could even be the veggies if you ate loads and loads.

Can't advise on the groin leak but I'm sure someone will be along soon to help.
 
Sausages can vary from 90% meat and very littyle carbs to very high carbs with low meat content. 5 high carb ones would not be good. Also, as xyzzy said, you need to look at the rest of the veg and how much you had. Finally, although 10 is high 2 hrs after eating, you started off from over 7 so if you could look at what you had been doing before the meal you might get that down. The glass of wine wouldn't cause an increase. if anything it would lower your BG from what it would have been. Did you have any fruit after your meal? people sometimes forget that bit, thinking they're "free" food.
 
Hi all.
I find baked beans 'spike' me way too much - in fact I call them - them little b***ers !
Bread and baked beans is a definete no-go zone for me as a result . :roll:
Safer and much nicer/tastier to eat, is lean well grilled bacon and poached eggs. Yummy too!
Test 2-4hrs later levels stay constant 'YAY' n not spiked up high . :D
Anna.x
 
funny readings.....got mine after 2 hours of a meal to 8.1.........ive had nothing else to eat or drink...and 1 hour later its on 9.7.......then after another 45 min later (still had nothing to eat) 10.6 !!! i do feel a bit bunged up but nothing drastic...........why is it going up?
 
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