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Hit a real low.

Peckish again after my evening meal, craving 'naughty' food. Just had an 18g bar of chocolate (10g carbs per bar) and some belvita biscuits (30g carbs per pack) so a total of 40g carbs. I did take insulin for it however I'm stressing it's going to throw me off
 
You covered the carbs with insulin anyway good job.

Curious do you cope better with carbs as day goes on? I had same this evening as breakfast.. couple wheatabix, tried with plain yoghurt instead of milk interesting result flattened curve a fair whack. I did do a walk around the block before food and a along the shore around 20mins after ate for half an hour
 

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philly1991 said:
Peckish again after my evening meal, craving 'naughty' food. Just had an 18g bar of chocolate (10g carbs per bar) and some belvita biscuits (30g carbs per pack) so a total of 40g carbs. I did take insulin for it however I'm stressing it's going to throw me off
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Doesn't very much sound like 'naughty' food to me, more like a pretty normal snack, especially because you took insulin for it.
That's a very small bar of chocolate and 30 grams of carbs worth of biscuits doesn't sound excessive to me either.
 
Wow Philly.. am impressed by your progress the last few days, way to go. You’re doing good, keep it up!
Of course it was a Bank Holiday in the UK today.. hope you have better luck getting through to somebody in the mental health team tomorrow.
I wonder why you designate some foods as ‘naughty’? With the help of a CGM I have discovered that eating some foods is not such a good idea for me, like white rice, bananas, fruit juice, breakfast cereals.. unless I go low and need to get my sugar level up! Not happening lately.. think my pancreas has finally given up completely. But none of those foods are ‘naughty’.
I decided last week that summer was over and took 2 part eaten tubs of ice cream out of the freezer. Neapolitan - husband’s, and an orange and chocolate…mine! Left them out the freezer to get them to that slightly melted stage.. gave husband a spoon for his and took a spoon to mine… thought I had eaten more than I had.. so it was like half a box… couldn't check the nutrition info, as it was on the bottom of the box… so when I had finished… it was scrummy!… checked the nutrition and realised I had just eaten about 60 grams of carbs! Dosed the insulin and somehow kept in the green zone on the CGM….
Hope the ice cream story hasn’t made you crave ice cream.
Best wishes
 
Antje77 said:
Oh, yikes, I had no idea about bank holidays with my reminder, being in the Netherlands.
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It can be strange in UK some areas can have bank holidays where others don't... Eg where I am wasn't. If went mainland across water was

(edit fixed typo? well forgot to hit a keystoke it appears.. srange to strange)
 
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Marikev said:
Wow Philly.. am impressed by your progress the last few days, way to go. You’re doing good, keep it up!
Of course it was a Bank Holiday in the UK today.. hope you have better luck getting through to somebody in the mental health team tomorrow.
I wonder why you designate some foods as ‘naughty’? With the help of a CGM I have discovered that eating some foods is not such a good idea for me, like white rice, bananas, fruit juice, breakfast cereals.. unless I go low and need to get my sugar level up! Not happening lately.. think my pancreas has finally given up completely. But none of those foods are ‘naughty’.
I decided last week that summer was over and took 2 part eaten tubs of ice cream out of the freezer. Neapolitan - husband’s, and an orange and chocolate…mine! Left them out the freezer to get them to that slightly melted stage.. gave husband a spoon for his and took a spoon to mine… thought I had eaten more than I had.. so it was like half a box… couldn't check the nutrition info, as it was on the bottom of the box… so when I had finished… it was scrummy!… checked the nutrition and realised I had just eaten about 60 grams of carbs! Dosed the insulin and somehow kept in the green zone on the CGM….
Hope the ice cream story hasn’t made you crave ice cream.
Best wishes
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'Naughty' food explanation, a couple of reasons.
Firstly, when I was first diagnosed I was diagnosed Type 2. My DSN at the time was fairly old and she was very very old school, essentially she wanted me to live off meat and vegetables. Each time I saw her she treated me like a child who had been naughty for not doing what she was supposed to do. Let's just say it has scarred.

Secondly, in my head these foods are naughty because I know they're going to spike my BG but I still eat them anyway, because I want to. I have no willpower to deny myself.

Glad you enjoyed the ice cream!
 
Antje77 said:
And now the bank holiday is over @philly1991 , have you found the courage today to call them again?
If not yet, here's your friendly nudge. ;)
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I haven't yet, I think it was easier yesterday because I knew it was Bank Holiday so they likely wouldn't answer. Today they will and I'm a little nervous.

I've just seen my DSN and she is happy with the progress I have made but did push again for me to give the mental health team a call.
 
Theres nothing wrong with asking for help when needed imo the hardest part is admitting that could do with assistance in the first instance which you've already done :)

No need to be nervous, both phycologists and psychiatrists will be used to hearing all sorts of issues, pretty sure they'll of helped others in simular positions. You wont be the onle one. I realise its easier said than done to not be anxious about something.

If you find it easier to put in writing, rather than calling via the phone pretty certain that would work too. Since you have the telephone numebr already presume you have the address you could write to or maybe even email? If not could google their phone number to get the address or simply look up the company name info to obtain?

Anyway how did breakfast go this morning and over night sugar levels? :)

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ps glad dsn is happy with progress made :) hopeful your thirlled too with it
 
BG 11.1 before bed and corrected. Had a steady night but woke at 11am, it was 12.2. I did wake with a headache and very congested, think I might be coming down with something. Could explain why BG didn't respond much to correction?

No breakfast because I woke late, just had a fairly carb heavy meal so we shall see what happens with that.
 
philly1991 said:
BG 11.1 before bed and corrected. Had a steady night but woke at 11am, it was 12.2. I did wake with a headache and very congested, think I might be coming down with something. Could explain why BG didn't respond much to correction?

No breakfast because I woke late, just had a fairly carb heavy meal so we shall see what happens with that.
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sorry to hear your coming down with something, illness of any description can indeed effect levels. what effect on glucose levels does your correctional dose usually have? originally advice i had on correctional dose changed... used to be told oh just a unit less or more, depending in glucose level at next meal, later on it became a little more specific was told that 1 unit usually would reduce glucose by X. if i was in high teens could then just do correctional dose and to just keep eye on levels for its peak active time. If you haven't been given further advise can ask your DSN to perhaps explain correctional doses in a little more detail? i had a different target glucose level daytime and night, originally had same standard range all day long.
 
ps if craving something sweetish heres a recipe i posted earlier on another thread.
I've listed the carbs for each ingrediant and totals.
approx 2.3-2.7g carbs per 100g(same as ml more or less) (depends on double/whipping cream) 300ml
approx 3-4g (depends on brand) supermarket own brand cheap soft cheese tub (200g)
keto lemon jelly - made upto 150ml water. (or can use gelatin - 4 leaves. or 10-12g powder)
rind of 2 lemon's juice of 1 (5g carbs)
1.5g low cal sweetner 1 1/2 desert spoon. (~0.5g is a teaspoon)

method:
boil 75g water add jelly/gelatin. finely grate rind off 2 lemons add to jelly. add juice of 1 lemon. mix well make upto 150ml with ice cold water put in fridge allow to cool for 10 mins before proceeding.
whip cream until fairly thick and airy.
add sweetner 1 to 1.5 desert spoons to the soft cheese mix with fork
add softcheese mix to cream, mix until stiff, careful not to overmix.
very slowly fold in the jellymix try to ensure you keep as much air in it as possible hence the slowly slowly.

put in fridge overnight. the cheesecake mix average carbs is roughly (2.5x3)7.5g for the cream (2x3.5)7g soft cheese jelly <1g lemonride+juice 5g sweetner 1.5g. = 22g for the FULL mix which is enough for a 6inch cake tin :) approx 6-8 servings


you could use keto ginger snaps or simular (they're usually around 2g per biscuit) or can make your own. if you would like a couple of recipes or just use a thin layer of digestives ~6 biscuits is approx 54g carbs as biscuit base... would work out basing on 6 portions... 54+22 = 76g carbs. 76/6 = 12.667 i'd round down to 12.5g some crumbs ... cant get every one of them ;)

wouldnt have above too often @Antje77 may like this recipe too ? :) i'm sure some others will.

wow have i managed a post without a typo? :O lol :D
 
grantg said:
sorry to hear your coming down with something, illness of any description can indeed effect levels. what effect on glucose levels does your correctional dose usually have? originally advice i had on correctional dose changed... used to be told oh just a unit less or more, depending in glucose level at next meal, later on it became a little more specific was told that 1 unit usually would reduce glucose by X. if i was in high teens could then just do correctional dose and to just keep eye on levels for its peak active time. If you haven't been given further advise can ask your DSN to perhaps explain correctional doses in a little more detail? i had a different target glucose level daytime and night, originally had same standard range all day long.
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I was 1 unit to reduce by 3 but recently my DSN suggested 1 unit to reduce by 2. This doesn't always seem to work (I say always, since Saturday) but when we get a good idea of where I'm at obviously can make changes. I see her again 17th September so hopefully I've made some good progress and have a few weeks of readings to show her and we can go from there. We haven't gone much into targets, I think she's cautious of overwhelming me right now. I also haven't looked into targets myself because I'm focusing on carb counting and taking my doses which right now is huge for me and I'm also worried about becoming overwhelmed.

Didn't find the courage to make the call to mental health team today unfortunately.
 
grantg said:
Theres nothing wrong with asking for help when needed imo the hardest part is admitting that could do with assistance in the first instance which you've already done :)

No need to be nervous, both phycologists and psychiatrists will be used to hearing all sorts of issues, pretty sure they'll of helped others in simular positions. You wont be the onle one. I realise its easier said than done to not be anxious about something.

If you find it easier to put in writing, rather than calling via the phone pretty certain that would work too. Since you have the telephone numebr already presume you have the address you could write to or maybe even email? If not could google their phone number to get the address or simply look up the company name info to obtain?

Anyway how did breakfast go this morning and over night sugar levels? :)

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ps glad dsn is happy with progress made :) hopeful your thirlled too with it
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Update, I didn't make the phone call but I have just this minute completed the online self referral form. Apparently I will be contacted within 7 working days, takes the pressure off me making the call myself.
 
philly1991 said:
I was 1 unit to reduce by 3 but recently my DSN suggested 1 unit to reduce by 2. This doesn't always seem to work (I say always, since Saturday) but when we get a good idea of where I'm at obviously can make changes. I see her again 17th September so hopefully I've made some good progress and have a few weeks of readings to show her and we can go from there. We haven't gone much into targets, I think she's cautious of overwhelming me right now. I also haven't looked into targets myself because I'm focusing on carb counting and taking my doses which right now is huge for me and I'm also worried about becoming overwhelmed.

Didn't find the courage to make the call to mental health team today unfortunately.
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slow & steady gets u there its a marathon and not a sprint :) insulin resistance / average weight/bmi etc.

philly1991 said:
Update, I didn't make the phone call but I have just this minute completed the online self referral form. Apparently I will be contacted within 7 working days, takes the pressure off me making the call myself.
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your doing exceptionally well. especially over the last few days! thats some amount of progress you should be very proud! :)
 
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