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How does T2 Progress?

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DazG

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I was only diagnosed earlier this year so its still all new to me.

I was just wondering how does it progress?

I have good control at the minute and I plan on keeping it this way, so will I remain as I am now, or will my condition change and lead to other meds/complications etc in the future?

I know each individual is different, but Im just asking in general terms?

Daz
 
It depends on the individual but the general medical opinion is that it will deteriorate over time.

My personal view is now that good control will hold off deterioration, but with my kinda luck I'll probably be proved wrong :wink:
 
I asked my GP the very same question...
She told me I can slow progression hugely but the rate of progression very much depends on my control. As I am "relatively young" for a t2 (39 at dx) she thinks I will progress because I will be diabetic for a long time (I suppose the other option is less appealing).
My last HBA1C was 6.2 which is pretty good control.
 
This is the reason I asked, Ive just turned 35 and diagnosed at 34 so I have longer to live with it :( I am really starting to wonder what the point is if the inevitable is going to happen anyway to be honest, not really fair is it.

Do any types 2 ever get a pancreas transplant?
 
Daz
there is every point!!! Like me you will be diabetic for a long time so need to slow it down. My lovely GP couldn't stress enough how much of a difference I can make. The other option is to sit back and let it win.
There is a lady who works in my building. A fellow t2. I guess she is about 50. She doesn't look after herself and walks with a stick because of the damage the infected sores she gets did. I wonder if she had taken control at our age if she would be in such poor shape now?
I do have to admit though... Sometimes I think "sod it" as well.
 
What annoys me even more is, Ive never had very much from my dad during my whole life at all, and even less from his mother who never bothered with any of us from the age of 5, (they are both diabetic) and so the one time I actually get anything from either of them, and its bl**ding diabetes :roll:
 
P.s. Thanks for the link, tho Im not sure if I want to read it to be honest, maybe when I am in a brighter mood :lol:
 
Thanks for asking the question Daz, I was wondering about this myself today. I am T2 diet only and was wondering how long i'm going to get away with it. Then I started fretting about all the things that could go wrong :cry: THEN I slapped myself about the face a bit ( well metaphorically speaking anyway ) and thought, 'I could get run down by a bus tomorrow, why worry about what if's?' I'm going to go all buddhist on life's ass, live in the moment and enjoy every second of joy I get! :P to diabetes!
 
Thats the attitude to have isnt it, mine is usually the same, but today its got me down a little, not to worry tho, tomorrow is another day filled with all sorts of possibilities :D
 
Absofragginlutely! As you say we all have those moments/hours/days. That's why it's so important to have the support of the fm's. :D
 
I'm convinced that T2 does not HAVE TO progress.
I as told by the doctor that even with good control it does, however his definition of "good control" is HbA1c of 6.5%. Non- diabetics have HbA1cs of around or below 5% thus if you can keep to non-diabetic bs, there shouldn't be any progression. It seems to be the circulating glucose which does damage.
Even non-diabetics who "run high" are prone to diabetic complications.
Certainly keeping near normal HbA1cs slows progression. I read somewhere that on average T2s progress to needing insulin in approximately 5 years from diagnosis.
I bet if you check out the ones who haven't, you'll find the lower HbA1c among them.
Hana
 
I didn't realise my HB1AC was much higher than a non diabetic's. I intend to stave off meds or insulin for as long as i can!
 
I do wonder what the future holds for younger T2's. I mentioned on here once but was flamed by an older member as they said something about wanting an extra 20 yrs which was a bit depressing to read at my age. My consultant said I had excellent control but I do seem to be having a lot of complications
 
I just think its really unfair that if you have good control, stuff can still happen to you, it isnt right so Ive told it that it had better not progress at all, cos if it does there will be trouble.
 
DazG said:
I just think its really unfair that if you have good control, stuff can still happen to you, it isnt right so Ive told it that it had better not progress at all, cos if it does there will be trouble.
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I like it......positive thinking. :lol:

Seriously though, life has a habit of kicking you in the teeth sometimes, been there etc......You can only do your best and hope you get lucky. :wink:
 
Dippy
not many people [and that includes HealthCare Professionals] know what NORMAL blood sugars and Hb A1cs are. That's why they seem to be satisfied with the numbers that they are.
Normal Blood glucose, usually runs from about 3.5 to 5.5 and rarely goes much above, even after a carbful meal,although they may drop o 3 or just below without ill effect. I have read reports from people claiming numbers up to 8 for non-diabetics. I suspect that those people have slightly impaired glucose metabolism and are probably related [and share genes] with diagnosed diabetics.
Bernstein quotes that he tests any willing sales reps that come to his office. He challenges them, by saying he knows what their BG is. He gets away with it too, because he always says 85 [that's 4.7 in our numbers.
It's much more difficult for insulin users, but it is posssible to keep to non-diabetic numbers.
Hana
It's my personal opinion is that there's far more damage done by persistent high sugars than by hypos, however unpleasant they may be.
[And yes! anyone who wants to jump on me I HAVE experiened a severe hypo quite recently]
 
By reading this thread I've learned that some of those feelings I have regarding having the condition in my mid to late 30s actually aren't as uncommon as it seems at times.

Hell, it seems like a whole bunch of us are going through similar emotions.

What can we say in the face of highly likely 'issues' in future?

Take it a day at a time and just try your darn hardest to make sure your complications are relatively minor ones compared to the possibilities.

These days I'm getting into meditation because I find it relaxes me to no end. Whatever may happen in the future lets not ruin today worrying about it. Even in the most dire prognosis, we've got a few good years left in us. Let's live them as best we can. Even if this is without cream cakes, chips and whatnot!
 
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