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How high is the High Fat of LCHF??

When I first started low carbing based on Atkins I just cut the carbs way down and never really added extra fat. Then I learned of low carb high fat and started adding fat to everything like butter and cheese which in turn added fat to my bum and stomach. So I cut carbs even lower which did nothing. ( I was under 20 ). Eventually I settled back into normal fat. The fat with my protein, though I trim visible, avocado, mayo, olive oil Andy some nuts. I don't gob anything and I keep saturated fats low ( it effects my cholesterol). I don't eat fatty bacon, chicken skins, fatty red meats, slather things in butter, cream and cheese. Though my diet is 80% fat it's still normal amounts.

A salad with tuna and some chopped avocado drizzled with olive oil is 80% fat, 15%!protein and 5% carbs .

Fat is in the eye of the beholder.
 
bulkbiker said:
How long is a piece of string...
It's very individual.. personally I follow a ketogenic diet for the most part which limits carbs to 20g per day . After that I consume protein and fat. My protein is usually between 100 and 200g per day averaging around 130g. My fat consumption anywhere between 180g- 350g with an average about 200g. The averages are lower because some days when fasting I consume less grams of both.
There is no "official" level of fat but most people don't worry too much about fat consumption and actively avoid "low fat" produce instead eating butter, cream and cheese. There are others who are very concerned about fat consumption and eat what they call "healthy" fats from avocados and olives rather than those from meat and eggs.
Then of course you get into the whole cholesterol argument...
So not an easy question to answer..
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It has been proven by some theories--that there is absolutely no link between dietary fat & cholesterol in our blood. Sugar is the culprit, responsible for blood trigylcerides.
 
Mokkijo said:
It has been proven by some theories--that there is absolutely no link between dietary fat & cholesterol in our blood. Sugar is the culprit, responsible for blood trigylcerides.
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Completely agree.. I am not one of those who are concerned about cholesterol
 
Not arguing at all but my tryglicerides are always in question and I eat extremely low carb.
Anyone know why this would be?

To add, my HDL is always high and all my ratios are ideal so not worrried in the least, just curious as to what else causes high tryglicerides
 
Kristin251 said:
Not arguing at all but my tryglicerides are always in question and I eat extremely low carb.
Anyone know why this would be?

To add, my HDL is always high and all my ratios are ideal so not worrried in the least, just curious as to what else causes high tryglicerides
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Do you fast before the test? Not fasting is the usual reason for higher trigs.
 
Mokkijo said:
It has been proven by some theories--that there is absolutely no link between dietary fat & cholesterol in our blood. Sugar is the culprit, responsible for blood trigylcerides.
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Yes, I have to laugh when those gurus have "proven" to me some theory that my body can't react the way it clearly does when I eat saturated fats.
 
I think it is useful to keep in mind that we are all different and there is no dietary plan which will suit all of us. As such, all input and experience is helpful when thinking about making changes in our diet, combined with research and self testing.
 
douglas99 said:
Yes, I have to laugh when those gurus have "proven" to me some theory that my body can't react the way it clearly does when I eat saturated fats.
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Douglas, we hear you say this many times, and I'm not at all disputing what you say. I am just wondering how you know it is saturated fats that raise your cholesterol? Have you conducted elimination tests on yourself as one might in order to solve a food allergy problem? When did you last eat a lot of saturated fat and what form did it take? Was it dairy, or meat fat, or pastry fat or nasty trans fat from some source or other? Did you eliminate these in turn or all at once? How long ago did you notice raised cholesterol - and which of the lipids were raised/depleted?

Just interested.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Douglas, we hear you say this many times, and I'm not at all disputing what you say. I am just wondering how you know it is saturated fats that raise your cholesterol? Have you conducted elimination tests on yourself as one might in order to solve a food allergy problem? When did you last eat a lot of saturated fat and what form did it take? Was it dairy, or meat fat, or pastry fat or nasty trans fat from some source or other? Did you eliminate these in turn or all at once? How long ago did you notice raised cholesterol - and which of the lipids were raised/depleted?

Just interested.
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If you believe trans fat is the same as saturated fats, you need to look at the different types of fats to be honest.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
I do know the difference. You haven't answered my questions.
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Clearly you are somewhat confused.
I said saturated fats raise my cholesterol. You asked If it was dairy, meat, or trans fats. You need to do some research. I'll answer when you are clearer.
 
douglas99 said:
Clearly you are somewhat confused.
I said saturated fats raise my cholesterol. You asked If it was dairy, meat, or trans fats. You need to do some research. I'll answer when you are clearer.
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I have told you I am clear. You are just avoiding answering, so to put it simply, fat from which food source raises your cholesterol, and how can you be sure?
 
douglas99 said:
Clearly you are somewhat confused.
I said saturated fats raise my cholesterol. You asked If it was dairy, meat, or trans fats. You need to do some research. I'll answer when you are clearer.
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as trans fats are considered to behave in a similar way to saturated fats, when eaten, I think they belong under the heading of saturated fats, even though they are not technical call saturated.


https://www.bhf.org.uk/heart-health/preventing-heart-disease/healthy-eating/fats-explained
 
serenity648 said:
as trans fats are considered to behave in a similar way to saturated fats, when eaten, I think they belong under the heading of saturated fats, even though they are not technical call saturated.
https://www.bhf.org.uk/heart-health/preventing-heart-disease/healthy-eating/fats-explained
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That would certainly undermine any claim that 'saturated fats did it' if the person was simultaneously eating any trans fats. It would take some serious long term controlled testing to verify any claim.
 
I'll give you all time to look what saturated fats are.
 
I know saturated fats raise my cholesterol and the facts/ claims are evident in my blood work. Dairy, meat, butter etc. (I don't eat trans fats so wouldn't know about those) are all saturated fats. My cholesterol came way down when I swapped saturated fats for plant / mono fats such as avocado ( I know you do t like them) olive oil, nuts and olives as my primary fats. I do eat fatty fish such as tuna and salmon for the omega 3's. But I cut visible fat off my meats and poultry. These adjustments lowered my LDL and tryglicerides and raise my HDL.
We all process and metabolize foods differently.
 
ghost_whistler said:
Or you could back up your claims with evidence
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Why? I don't actually care what your cholesterol is to be honest. You eat your diet, you get a number. You like it, or you don't. It doesn't impact my life. I don't expect to impact yours.
 
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